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Post by dimaggiofan on Dec 30, 2007 3:50:58 GMT -5
A few days ago I was watching the first part, and the nana scene gets me every time.
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Post by Firelady Nemo on Dec 30, 2007 15:09:10 GMT -5
which one? where shes like "this is gonna be so exciting?" that one makes me laugh
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Post by dimaggiofan on Dec 30, 2007 21:44:20 GMT -5
which one? where shes like "this is gonna be so exciting?" that one makes me laugh Nope, this. =
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Post by Firelady Nemo on Dec 31, 2007 14:19:37 GMT -5
AWWWWW!!! thats so sweet!!
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Post by mdog on Jan 2, 2008 0:39:01 GMT -5
That is SO cute
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Post by frozenfire on Jan 2, 2008 2:42:00 GMT -5
awwww... I miss my grandma...
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Post by slicknickshady on Jan 2, 2008 2:59:06 GMT -5
love your sig frozen fire.
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Post by frozenfire on Jan 2, 2008 4:02:48 GMT -5
thanks! I just made it... ;D err, I don't wanna get this thread OT... do you guys remember the intercontinental electromagnetosizer and how it merged all the continents into one?... was that really canon?... cuz if it isn't: those land masses don't look merged to me...
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Post by danman007 on Jan 2, 2008 17:46:31 GMT -5
thanks! I just made it... ;D err, I don't wanna get this thread OT... do you guys remember the intercontinental electromagnetosizer and how it merged all the continents into one?... was that really canon?... cuz if it isn't: those land masses don't look merged to me... I figure that the continents ever fully merged due to the intercontinental electromagnetosizer being destroy. But yeah it did bother me at first when I watch 'Clothes Minded'.
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Post by Blue on Jan 6, 2008 22:09:42 GMT -5
oh look.
i made an icon out of the kim/ron kiss of this ep. C:
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Post by slicknickshady on Jan 6, 2008 22:41:17 GMT -5
Destiny.
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Post by Blue on Jan 7, 2008 0:01:49 GMT -5
It sure is. btw, on a sidenote: slick, i can't pm you. i've been trying to but its no use.
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Post by slicknickshady on Jan 7, 2008 3:32:34 GMT -5
It sure is. btw, on a sidenote: slick, i can't pm you. i've been trying to but its no use. You should be able to now. I Put * in the pm prefrences to block all PMs. I did not want to keep getting pms from a certain group of people. It just was a lot easier to put one of these * instead of putting all 7 of the people I wanted to blocks screenname in the box. You were not one of the 7 just so you know. I just now took * out and typed the people I want to block by name.
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Post by Blue on Jan 15, 2008 20:06:56 GMT -5
oh hay. kimron. yahoo!
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Post by Firelady Nemo on Jan 15, 2008 20:38:13 GMT -5
oh hay. kimron. yahoo! that is so awesome!
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Post by Blue on Jan 16, 2008 16:02:00 GMT -5
NO!!! ImageShack deleting everything without permission! EDIT: Good. They put it back. ;D
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Post by cadmus on Jan 17, 2008 3:40:18 GMT -5
I have a hard time thinking Bob lied about them going to college together in this thread. He is the creator. He stated this before he stated the other thing. It should be obvious to you that what Bob said first is what he really believes. He's the creator. Graduation was already finished. You can't change you're mind when somethings finished. SAYS WHO, there's no actual law saying that a producer can't change their mind on off screen material ( Note:Kim and Ron entering college did not happen ON SCREEN, nor did Ron getting something allowing him to attend the same college as Kim ever happen on screen; though common sense says that at the very least, the later should have happened, but it didn't. AND I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY. ) Also, is there some law in the Geneva convention saying that Bob's not allowed to change his mind on what is canon and what is not when it comes to what happens off screen? It doesn't matter if he said something before or after, he's a producer of the show; HE'S ALLOWED TO GO BACK ON HIS WORD, SINCE HE'S THE CREATOR. There's nothing saying that he can't is there? Also slicknickshady, the only reason I don't take Steve Loter's word as canon is because I know that some obnoxious fan is coming to come in and say that they believe what Bob said is canon because Bob Schooley has supperiority over Steve Loter because Bob has a higher position than Steve(i.e. higher up on the food chain) and has been there longer. And the problem is I'd have to agree with that person since Bob Schooley is a co-executive producer (along with Mark McCorkle), whilst Steve Loter's position is as Producer. So pretty much Bob's word>Steve's word when it comes to canon. See what I said above about Bob's word>Steve's word in cases like this. It doesn't matter what his first reaction was, it's his current reaction that matters, and there's nothing written in stone saying that Bob can't change his mind. There's no golden rule saying one thread trumps another. As of right now his current belief on the Kim-Ron situation is "The series belongs to the fans to spin anyway they want now." He also agreed that fans should only take it as Canon if it happens ON SCREEN. It doesn't matter what thread it happened in that's his word, and his current belief. So unless he says otherwise, then unfortunately I have to take his word for it regardless of it being canon. My take on it, I don't think leaving Kim and Ron's future to the audience is a bright idea. I'm almost positive that 90% of the KP fanbase don't tune in just to be told to "come up with your own ending." Why would we even watch the show or the ideas that the writers come with just to be told "think of your own ending"? And don't give me this fan fic bs as an excuse, because fanfiction doesn't add anything of resonance or face value to the show (nor does a fan imagining the ending) and anybody thinking that it does is deluding themselves. Yeah but he didn't say he agreed with Steve's opinion either. There's nothing there that explicably says Bob was talking about stuff that doesn't pertain to Kim/Ron and college. He was talking about everything that doesn't happen on screen, So Kim/Ron and the college issue is fair game. Yes but there's no on screen evidence. And Bob's current line of thinking so far is (not on screen, not canon). Sure Steve attempted to explain it. But I have to once again quote Sideshow Bob "They don't give out Nobel Prizes for attempted chemistry." Tell Bob Schooley that, not me.
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Post by Alexlayer on Jan 17, 2008 12:13:59 GMT -5
For someone who would have it much easier with just buying what he is told, I seriously got to admire your impetu, Cadmus. What I really can't understand (and would like to) is where are you trying to get with this. Are you expecting either Steve or Bob to give you an answer or something? Or just wanting to express your point of view?
One way or the other, just simply ask yourself: Why give so much for the VIPs' words? Why don't you decide for yourself what you think it's right? The show, the episode itself is not going to change. It ended without a conclusion for Ron's problem and unless Disney miraclously decides to remake Graduation, that's how it's going to stay.
Slick will take the words of the VIPs and interpret them as he sees fit as long as it supports what he wants: "K/R Forever". Others like me prefer to stick with what's seen on screen and not give that much for the VIPs words. But in your case, it's like you just can't make up your mind or can't help but to take everything in consideration.
I mean, would Bob saying now that Kim and Ron ultimately go to college together solve this for you? Or what? In the end, unless we got another season, nothing is gonna change except for what's on your mind, and personally, I think you should have to decide that by yourself.
Well, whatever you're trying to get to, I wish you good luck. See ya later.
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Post by mike on Jan 18, 2008 5:45:28 GMT -5
To be canon-wise, if it follows that we take whatever the creators say true for the show then it is inevitably clear that there's a paradox.
I mean if Bob did mention that only what's on screen is canon, hence it follows that whatever happened off-screen would merely be a possibility or in this case the idea of them going to collage is merely an idea affirmed or should I say wished by a creator. But if what they say is true about the definition of canonity, then it follows that it can or cannot be canon.
To make the story short, I am with cadmus when he asserted that it is not canon by nature, however I am against the assertion of them not entering on collage based on the ground it is not canon.
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Post by aliciamartin on Jan 18, 2008 11:52:41 GMT -5
are d/s really dating the big d/s fan just wants to know please ;D
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