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Post by mrpotty on Nov 9, 2006 13:46:18 GMT -5
You guys, I don't think it's a good idea to ban political threads because a few people began flames. I would agree when we were talking about one single incident, but every second political thread seems to end with flaming and closing of the thread! We had the same discussion because of the same problem in another political or religious thread less than 3 months ago and even then it was not the first time! |
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Nov 9, 2006 14:10:13 GMT -5
I posted my view in my Goodbye thread.
I think we have two choices: You can lose the political and religious talk or you can lose members.
Personally, I would rather we lose the p and r talk.
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Post by drakkenfan on Nov 9, 2006 15:54:01 GMT -5
Politics are very important to people...
Could you pray for my Grandma's friend Bob? He's been a friend of my family for decades. He's a Republican and when he heard how bad the election results were for the republicans he had a heart attack because he was so upset. He just got out of the hospital today, but his heart is still having irregular beats, which he started taking medication for. I just found out about it this afternoon.
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Nov 9, 2006 15:54:53 GMT -5
Wow.
That's amazing. And freaky. I'll pray for him.
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Post by drakkenfan on Nov 9, 2006 16:01:04 GMT -5
Wow. That's amazing. And freaky. I'll pray for him. My grandma drove to the hospital at 1:30 AM, because he has no family at all, so the hospital called her. I felt really sad when I heard that. |
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Nov 9, 2006 16:04:55 GMT -5
I heard of somebodys who had a heart attack from the Mars Attacks or whatever Radio thing
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Post by dracko19 on Nov 9, 2006 16:46:44 GMT -5
We are not banning Political/Religious topics here at Rs.net, so we can drop that discussion. This thread has many members from across the globe (and KP appears across the globe). World events are very much a part of this forum as they effect the lives of all our members. Its quite simple really...those that learn to be respectful and civil in these discussions will be allowed to participate. Those that can't will be cut off and/or banned from those discussions. Eventually we will get a handle on the troublemakers. That wouldn't work if we didn't have an active MOD, but fortunately, we do.  |
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Nov 9, 2006 16:58:16 GMT -5
I'm still for banning those discussions.
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Post by Ezbok58a on Nov 9, 2006 17:05:36 GMT -5
And it's still not going to happen.
How is it that most of these political and religous threads have so many posts, and only two people cause the problem. Is that the threads fault? No. It's the poster's fault, they didn't think before they posted and it naturally pissed some people off, and from there the thread gets ruined.
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Post by Nightspade on Nov 9, 2006 17:36:57 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]Okay, we all know it's not gonna happen, but...
BAN POLITICS AND RELIGION!? On what grounds? Because people feel so passionately about them?! No. That's like taking away the tools because the workers made the building wrong. It's like taking away guns because people use them to kill each other.
Political discussions aren't the why, they're the how. The why, the root of the matter, is the fact that people get carried away, lose their heads, and start flaming.
If it's not political/religious issues that we flame each other over, it's gonna be other things. Like 'Kim's favorite top is this' or 'Ron like Shego more then Kim!'
Banning these discussions isn't going to stop the nature of the members.[/glow]
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Nov 9, 2006 18:00:43 GMT -5
Yeah, that's true.
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Post by RavenStar on Nov 9, 2006 18:10:21 GMT -5
I don't think we need to ban politics and religious discussion. We just need to have a section separate from General Discussion for it - and other general news items not related to KP. With that, plus a simple warning so people can avoid it altogether if they want to - all this hubbub would go away for the most part. Case in point: the Off-Topic section of Titansgo.net's forums. Note the Debate and Discussion section - that's where all the political and religious threads are. Living Room has all the non-TT news items. And a reminder, that board is for a show that was rated TVY7 - lower than KP's TVG rating. If there's something like this for rs.net, it will take away all the political and religious topics out of General Discussion, plus all the extraneous news that floods General Discussion - and allow any flamewars that erupt to be caught and dealt with much faster, because they will all be in one section of the board. Also, to be honest, better modding would also help to curb the out of hand stuff. Dracko's got a good thing goin' with his iron fist, but the other mods have either disappeared, or are just not being dilligent enough. The founder of the board is essentially nonexistant except when drastic stuff like proboards deleting the forum happens (also, it really would help if he didn't act like he was actually Ron when he was here, because that just a) creeps people out, and b) makes it really hard to take him seriously as a mod). The founders of TGN are on the boards every day. And this is with them all having jobs, classes, or kids, etc... There's no reason to ban the discussions. Just find a way to monitor and control them better, is all. |
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Post by Avenger on Nov 9, 2006 19:44:58 GMT -5
We are not banning Political/Religious topics here at Rs.net, so we can drop that discussion. This thread has many members from across the globe (and KP appears across the globe). World events are very much a part of this forum as they effect the lives of all our members. Its quite simple really...those that learn to be respectful and civil in these discussions will be allowed to participate. Those that can't will be cut off and/or banned from those discussions. Eventually we will get a handle on the troublemakers. That wouldn't work if we didn't have an active MOD, but fortunately, we do. Exactly. We just have to keep posting political discussions to weed out the troublemakers. Once we get rid of them, it will be smooth sailing. ;D |
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Post by dracko19 on Nov 9, 2006 22:58:02 GMT -5
**WARNING** NO SPAM ALLOWED IN THIS THREAD
THANK YOU
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Post by Imperial General Someguy on Nov 9, 2006 23:16:09 GMT -5
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Post by johnnys on Nov 9, 2006 23:34:59 GMT -5
I'm still of the opinion that sensitive issues such as politics, religion etc. should NOT be discussed in RS.Net, irregardless on whether the discussions would be banned or not. This is not what most of us come here for, as there are lots of other boards that specifically cater for these discussions. As I've said earlier, it also leave some ill-feelings between members, which would have been unnecessary if these issues are avoided. Also, the discussion always brings out the worse in people. heck, I have been called "naive" in this board a few months ago by a boy who haven't even finished High School yet! Anyway, I ignored his comments and I didn't bother to snitch on him either, as he probably needs time grow up. I just wish we did not scare off potential new members from joining RS.Net by having these kind of discussions (i.e. sensitive issues), as it almost did on myself. |
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Post by RavenStar on Nov 10, 2006 2:56:52 GMT -5
I just wish we did not scare off potential new members from joining RS.Net by having these kind of discussions (i.e. sensitive issues), as it almost did on myself. I agree with this, but not with the banning of the discussions. Simply move the discussions off General Discussion to another section lower on the board. People click on General Discussion first - they see the discussions there, and might end up being turned away. Moving the discussions to a separate section will make it so the people who want to debate those topics to be able to do it, and those who don't want to deal with them to have an easier time avoiding them. SDS has their Off-Topicness section, ARA has a completely separate section from their KP area for these types of discussions, PEEL ( www.peelified.com, Futurama fanboard) has an OffTopic Disccusion section, too - and yes, they still have some issues, but they're contained and don't drive people who come to the board for KP dicussion and find 40 flamewar politics and religion threads on the front page instead of what they came to the board for - not to mention some of the parents who feel the subject matter is something they don't want their (amittedly probably older) kids talking about yet - off. |
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Post by mrpotty on Nov 10, 2006 3:07:09 GMT -5
We are not banning Political/Religious topics here at Rs.net, so we can drop that discussion. This thread has many members from across the globe (and KP appears across the globe). World events are very much a part of this forum as they effect the lives of all our members. Does that mean we can talk about explicit sexual things, too? Sex effects every person around the world sooner or later. Not everything about it is "dirty", most of it is just natural, but I bet that many people will feel offended by it either and discussions about it won't stay open for that long. Some topics just bring out the worst in people. I can't even have a political discussion with MY FAMILY without having trouble and these threads are POISONING atmosphere on this board! They even make ME angry, although I have never participated in one! All I see is that they got locked or moderated after a while (unlike the thousands of unpolitical threads on thie board) and people feel to be hated. I'm not talking about censoring any opinion here, I'm talking about saving this great community, which worked out wonderful since we have a mod that cares, but now is going to split up, because many people can't talk about their political opinion without flaming or getting flamed! |
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Nov 10, 2006 6:59:38 GMT -5
We are not banning Political/Religious topics here at Rs.net, so we can drop that discussion. This thread has many members from across the globe (and KP appears across the globe). World events are very much a part of this forum as they effect the lives of all our members. Does that mean we can talk about explicit sexual things, too? Sex effects every person around the world sooner or later. Not everything about it is "dirty", most of it is just natural, but I bet that many people will feel offended by it either and discussions about it won't stay open for that long. Some topics just bring out the worst in people. I can't even have a political discussion with MY FAMILY without having trouble and these threads are POISONING atmosphere on this board! They even make ME angry, although I have never participated in one! All I see is that they got locked or moderated after a while (unlike the thousands of unpolitical threads on thie board) and people feel to be hated. I'm not talking about censoring any opinion here, I'm talking about saving this great community, which worked out wonderful since we have a mod that cares, but now is going to split up, because many people can't talk about their political opinion without flaming or getting flamed! I'm all for talking about sex here. But, I'm in 100 percent agreement with Mr Potty here. |
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Post by nabusan on Nov 10, 2006 8:27:47 GMT -5
I think talking about sex is an even more of a taboo subject than talking about religion/politics, particularly on a board visited by children. there are lots of other boards that specifically cater for these discussions. Dude, the stuff you find on that board is a gazillion times worse than what you find on rs.net(!) Okay guys, political/religious threads AREN'T going to banned - dracko19 has made that clear. And peer pressure from a few members out of hundreds isn't going to change that. One of the biggest things I found appealing about this board is its lack of 'censorship'; you can talk about lots of things here - within reason. We are not banning Political/Religious topics here at Rs.net, so we can drop that discussion. This thread has many members from across the globe (and KP appears across the globe). World events are very much a part of this forum as they effect the lives of all our members. Its quite simple really...those that learn to be respectful and civil in these discussions will be allowed to participate. Those that can't will be cut off and/or banned from those discussions. Eventually we will get a handle on the troublemakers. That wouldn't work if we didn't have an active MOD, but fortunately, we do. Exactly. We just have to keep posting political discussions to weed out the troublemakers. Once we get rid of them, it will be smooth sailing. ;D I like, totally agree with this. |
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