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Post by ninjanaco on Apr 27, 2007 13:34:06 GMT -5
Just another though on that (the good part, not the slash part  ) ... would that mean Josh want Tara to do something that she doesn't? That would seem out of character with what we've seen of Josh on the show, plus it would reinforce K/R extremists' "evil Josh" characiture. Why did Josh and Tara break up? I hope it was amicable, but we'll probably never know. |
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Post by Baroque on Apr 27, 2007 13:41:55 GMT -5
Josh...oh, I don't like Josh...
Anyway, perhaps they tried and have seen that it just doesn't work. Chemistry, too different personalities, perhaps they weren't "ready" for a new relationship...sounds good and fitting for me.
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Post by Scoutcraft Piratess on Apr 27, 2007 15:54:36 GMT -5
Maybe she just likes dating more than lasting relationships...
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Post by Baroque on Apr 27, 2007 17:31:55 GMT -5
Maybe she just likes dating more than lasting relationships... She doesn't seem like this to me. I think, she's more...looking for just one person, that she would be together with for...forever. Perhaps she is dating those guys because she has this little bit of childlike naivety (which is really cute) and when she hears Bonnie say things like food chain and that you HAVE to date someone... Or she is scared that the other Cheerleaders may not like her anymore if she isn't dating someone, doing the things she is (by them/Bonnie) supposed to do. Her mind is fragile, her soul so very violable that she couldn't bear others laughing and making fun at her. |
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Post by Sarah on Apr 27, 2007 18:10:46 GMT -5
 I hardly see Tara as a total angel. Seriously, she didn't fall from Heaven... As a character, and what we've seen of her, I'd imagine she either dates the wrong kind of guys, she doesn't like to hold a boyfriend for the sheer reason that they might bore her/'not click'/general couple ishes. She's still a teen, we must remember.
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Post by beeftony on Apr 27, 2007 19:26:52 GMT -5
IMO, Tara is a hopeless optimist. One only needs to watch "Sink or Swim" to know that she has an even brighter outlook on life than Anne Frank. She's also quite shy, and the reason I believe she stays friends with Bonnie is because the brunette is the only one who will stand up for her. As far as... that, I think she most likely lost her virginity freshman year. Shyness denotes a lack of confidence, which means that Tara may find it harder than others to just say, "No." Also, her optimism and naivete likely lead her to believe that "this guy will be different," when of course, none of them are. Tara is sadly like too many girls today. If you want to see an example of my interpretation of Tara, refer to my story Fingerprints of God. It's rated PG-13 for attempted suicide (don't worry, it ends happily). |
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Post by slicknickshady on Apr 27, 2007 19:27:48 GMT -5
She is a sweetheart thats for sure. Tara reminds me of a girl i had a crush on in 6th grade.
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Post by Rognik on Apr 27, 2007 19:31:12 GMT -5
I'd imagine she either dates the wrong kind of guys. In revisiting the idea, this is probably the more likely scenario. As an unofficial rule, guys tend to ask out girls more than the other way around. So maybe she just says yes to the wrong type of guys, or they expect her to 'put out' just because she's a cheerleader. Or maybe the animators are too lazy to redraw the same boy for Tara. Just thought this would be an interesting topic to get people talking, and that certainly seems to have happened. |
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Post by Scoutcraft Piratess on Apr 27, 2007 19:34:16 GMT -5
Maybe she just likes dating more than lasting relationships... She doesn't seem like this to me. I think, she's more...looking for just one person, that she would be together with for...forever. Perhaps she is dating those guys because she has this little bit of childlike naivety (which is really cute) and when she hears Bonnie say things like food chain and that you HAVE to date someone... Or she is scared that the other Cheerleaders may not like her anymore if she isn't dating someone, doing the things she is (by them/Bonnie) supposed to do. Her mind is fragile, her soul so very violable that she couldn't bear others laughing and making fun at her. I like this. |
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Post by Baroque on Apr 27, 2007 20:21:40 GMT -5
That's a good thing...right? As far as... that, I think she most likely lost her virginity freshman year. Shyness denotes a lack of confidence, which means that Tara may find it harder than others to just say, "No." Also, her optimism and naivete likely lead her to believe that "this guy will be different," when of course, none of them are. Tara is sadly like too many girls today. If you want to see an example of my interpretation of Tara, refer to my story Fingerprints of God. It's rated PG-13 for attempted suicide (don't worry, it ends happily). What's the matter with virginity lately? And how could you dare (isn't meant to be that harsh...) to compare Tara, the innocent, shy and cute Tara, with those shallow dolls most girls nowadays are/seem to be? IF I would write a story about her, a really dark one, perhaps it would have happened that one of those guys, well, used, abused her and threw her away afterwards. But I don't want to write anything like this because Tara hasn't deserved this kind of treatment, she is a too good person as if I could let something, anything like this happen to her. Plus, I don't think that she's stupid. She's naive, yes, but she knows when it is enough. Well, I don't know how good friends she is with Kim, but...I think if Tara is not sure what to do, listen to Bonnie and this guy that pretty much forces her to have sex with him or listen to her heart and mind, that scream in pain at the very thought of the things this guy would do to her...well, I think she'd go to Kim and ask her in some way. Kim is responsible, she would never laugh at Tara for not having sex, she would beware Tara of doing this giant mistake. |
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Post by beeftony on Apr 27, 2007 21:07:23 GMT -5
What's the matter with virginity lately? It's a very relevant topic of discussion among that age group. I know because I'm still in that age group (even though I graduated high school last year). Not to mention that it interests me for reasons I'm not allowed to discuss on a thread that isn't labelled PG-13. And how could you dare (isn't meant to be that harsh...) to compare Tara, the innocent, shy and cute Tara, with those shallow dolls most girls nowadays are/seem to be? Because those are the girls to whom she compares herself. She hangs out with BONNIE, not Kim. I see her as the kind of person who conforms rather than risk feeling like an outsider. That's why I think she displayed such strong feelings towards Ron in "Sink or Swim." He doesn't care what other people think about him. Tara cares too much. Even if she's not one of them, she still associates herself with them and follows their every command. That's just as bad IMO. IF I would write a story about her, a really dark one, perhaps it would have happened that one of those guys, well, used, abused her and threw her away afterwards. But I don't want to write anything like this because Tara hasn't deserved this kind of treatment, she is a too good person as if I could let something, anything like this happen to her. Bad things happen to the people who deserve them the least. This is a fact of life. And that's actually the approach I took with my story, only I added an ostracizing family and Bonnie abusing her friendship on top of that to get Tara to the emotional state where she would contemplate taking her own life. Emo kids aren't the only ones who slash their wrists. Suicide can strike at the very hearts of those that we think "have it all." But hey, it all worked out in the end when she saw how much everyone cared about her. Plus, I don't think that she's stupid. She's naive, yes, but she knows when it is enough. Well, I don't know how good friends she is with Kim, but...I think if Tara is not sure what to do, listen to Bonnie and this guy that pretty much forces her to have sex with him or listen to her heart and mind, that scream in pain at the very thought of the things this guy would do to her...well, I think she'd go to Kim and ask her in some way. Kim is responsible, she would never laugh at Tara for not having sex, she would beware Tara of doing this giant mistake. Naivete is enough to be a doormat. I'm not saying Tara was forced; hell, she may have wanted it. But all I'm saying is that she just doesn't have enough of a spine to say no. That's why she hangs out with Bonnie; so she'll have someone to stand up for her. As much as Kim likes standing up for everybody, she can be a tad impersonal with her squadmates, excluding Bonnie. Bonnie is able to be there for Tara in much the same way that Ron is there for Kim. Tara most likely goes to Bonnie for advice, not Kim. |
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Post by Baroque on Apr 27, 2007 22:05:22 GMT -5
Ah I hate those Quote monsters... It's a very relevant topic of discussion among that age group. I know because I'm still in that age group (even though I graduated high school last year). Not to mention that it interests me for reasons I'm not allowed to discuss on a thread that isn't labelled PG-13. It's weird but for me and the people I knew...it never really was. Perhaps that's because I always was one of the unpopular persons, who knows. This whole "Had sex already?!"...I think it occured lately, it's something for the uh..."next generation", the ones that are 12-14 now. Because those are the girls to whom she compares herself. She hangs out with BONNIE, not Kim. I see her as the kind of person who conforms rather than risk feeling like an outsider. That's why I think she displayed such strong feelings towards Ron in "Sink or Swim." He doesn't care what other people think about him. Tara cares too much. Even if she's not one of them, she still associates herself with them and follows their every command. That's just as bad IMO. I think I don't really understand your post...Tara doesn't want to be an outsider, yes. But in the next sentence you say, that she has "displayed such strong feelings towards Ron" because of that. Doesn't make sense to me...I mean, the other cheerleaders were there, Bonnie was there, and Tara tried to get Rons attention, she gave him so many hints...in front of the other cheerleaders. RON! The outsider Ron. You've seen how Bonnie laughed at Kim in So the Drama as she came with Ron to the prom... Why Tara did this? Perhaps it was the best moment/time to do it, perhaps she had collected enough confidence to finally talk to him like this. It still was all really uhm...reserved, she just gave him hints, perhaps so she could say, if Bonnie asked, that she was just talking to Ron and that it all had nothing to do with her really liking him. I don't know. Bad things happen to the people who deserve them the least. This is a fact of life. And that's actually the approach I took with my story, only I added an ostracizing family and Bonnie abusing her friendship on top of that to get Tara to the emotional state where she would contemplate taking her own life. Emo kids aren't the only ones who slash their wrists. Suicide can strike at the very hearts of those that we think "have it all." But hey, it all worked out in the end when she saw how much everyone cared about her. Yes, sadly. This "Emo" thing seems to not be really here. Yet. So I'm not one who thinks "Suicide? Ah, so Emo!", it's something really serious. Naivete is enough to be a doormat. I'm not saying Tara was forced; hell, she may have wanted it. But all I'm saying is that she just doesn't have enough of a spine to say no. That's why she hangs out with Bonnie; so she'll have someone to stand up for her. As much as Kim likes standing up for everybody, she can be a tad impersonal with her squadmates, excluding Bonnie. Bonnie is able to be there for Tara in much the same way that Ron is there for Kim. Tara most likely goes to Bonnie for advice, not Kim. I imagined it like this. Tara and the boy are on a date, cinema or what do I know. He starts kissing her and his hands are sliding down slowly from her shoulders to her breasts, she's pushing him away, "It's too fast". "Ah, come on," he says, all the stuff sex-driven guys say to get what they want. But Tara denies, she has to think about it. She knows what Bonnie thinks about it, but her mind tells her something else. The next day, after cheer practice (Tara was distracted, not focusing on the training so it wasn't quite...good), all girls except for Kim and her are already out of the locker room. Kim's just about to take off the cheer dress as Tara comes to her. "Kim...I know, we aren't best friends...but...I have to talk to you about something...personal." I don't think that Tara's that naive to go to Bonnie then...with that kind of problem. She'd go to Kim (or perhaps another cheerleader, who knows, we don't know so much about them and their personalities so...) and talk to her about it then. Tara knows that Kim is...not like Bonnie, responsible...what I said in my previous post, Kim's more independent and knows what would be better. Perhaps Tara would ask Kim in the "A friend of mine..." way, which would be really cute...and fitting, I think. |
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Post by beeftony on Apr 27, 2007 22:15:27 GMT -5
I think I don't really understand your post...Tara doesn't want to be an outsider, yes. But in the next sentence you say, that she has "displayed such strong feelings towards Ron" because of that. Doesn't make sense to me...I mean, the other cheerleaders were there, Bonnie was there, and Tara tried to get Rons attention, she gave him so many hints...in front of the other cheerleaders. RON! The outsider Ron. You've seen how Bonnie laughed at Kim in So the Drama as she came with Ron to the prom... Why Tara did this? Perhaps it was the best moment/time to do it, perhaps she had collected enough confidence to finally talk to him like this. It still was all really uhm...reserved, she just gave him hints, perhaps so she could say, if Bonnie asked, that she was just talking to Ron and that it all had nothing to do with her really liking him. I don't know. *Slaps forehead* I knew I should have finished that thought. What I meant was that Tara saw Ron's ability to just not care, and due to her inability to do the same thing, idolized him, which developed into a pseudo-crush that lasted all of one episode. It never really went anywhere. |
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Post by Nutzkie on Apr 28, 2007 0:57:08 GMT -5
IMO, Tara is a hopeless optimist. One only needs to watch "Sink or Swim" to know that she has an even brighter outlook on life than Anne Frank. WOW! That's pretty optimistic! After all, anyone who can pen the statement, "In spite of everything, I still believe that people are truly good at heart." while languishing in Bergen-Belsen must really be a "Glass-Half-Full" sort of person. By the way, welcome to the list, Beeftony! Be sure to create an introduction thread for yourself in the appropriate section! You'll find some great people here!  |
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Post by beeftony on Apr 28, 2007 1:17:15 GMT -5
Well, these lines were what did it for me: Tara: You know, Ron, I happen to think it's kinda nice here. Rufus: Hmm! Ron: Oh, really? Rufus: Huh! Tara: Sure, I mean, the woods are, you know, woodsy. And just look at the lake. It seems so peaceful. She's defending a freaking PLACE OF EVIL! lol. Though I'll admit the Anne Frank comparison was just made for the sake of hyperbole. |
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Post by mego on Apr 28, 2007 1:45:44 GMT -5
Tara didn't know it was a place of evil.
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Post by Baroque on Apr 28, 2007 11:19:51 GMT -5
*Slaps forehead* I knew I should have finished that thought. What I meant was that Tara saw Ron's ability to just not care, and due to her inability to do the same thing, idolized him, which developed into a pseudo-crush that lasted all of one episode. It never really went anywhere. Haha, thought something like this, wanted to write it down, too...but I kind of forgot about it... Anyway, I don't think it was a "pseudo" crush but a real crush. Who knows what has changed that she stopped uhm...flirting with him. Well, these lines were what did it for me: Tara: You know, Ron, I happen to think it's kinda nice here. Rufus: Hmm! Ron: Oh, really? Rufus: Huh! Tara: Sure, I mean, the woods are, you know, woodsy. And just look at the lake. It seems so peaceful. She's defending a freaking PLACE OF EVIL! lol. Come on, you can't be serious there. She wanted to make conversation, talk to Ron in SOME way, get his attention, wanted to point out that it could be romantic, sitting around a campfire at a lake at night, she snuggled up to him. |
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Post by lonestarr357 on Apr 28, 2007 17:19:29 GMT -5
Come on, you can't be serious there. She wanted to make conversation, talk to Ron in SOME way, get his attention, wanted to point out that it could be romantic, sitting around a campfire at a lake at night, she snuggled up to him. Exactly. |
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Post by beeftony on Apr 30, 2007 1:16:05 GMT -5
Come on, you can't be serious there. She wanted to make conversation, talk to Ron in SOME way, get his attention, wanted to point out that it could be romantic, sitting around a campfire at a lake at night, she snuggled up to him. Whoever said I was serious? Come on, that's why I put "lol." |
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Post by Baroque on Apr 30, 2007 7:10:11 GMT -5
"lol" isn't quite an indicator for...anything.
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) ... would that mean Josh want Tara to do something that she doesn't? That would seem out of character with what we've seen of Josh on the show, plus it would reinforce K/R extremists' "evil Josh" characiture.
I hardly see Tara as a total angel. Seriously, she didn't fall from Heaven... As a character, and what we've seen of her, I'd imagine she either dates the wrong kind of guys, she doesn't like to hold a boyfriend for the sheer reason that they might bore her/'not click'/general couple ishes.
