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Post by Charlotte C on Mar 12, 2009 18:38:30 GMT -5
I finished watching season 1, and I've ordered season 2. It's really good...plenty of action, but also very intelligent. Much more gore than I expected, though. That autopsy scene... ! I like Hiro and Ando, too. Their interactions, especially in the first few episodes, remind me a little of Drakken and Shego...not in a romantic way, but the way Hiro is so excited and optimistic and trying to follow the rules of the 'genre', kind of like Drakken, and Ando is sort of sarcastic and often has a 'why am I doing this?' look on his face, kind of like Shego. Ando's the annoyed, more grumpy one though. Seriously though, I thought the second season was great. I know it got a lot of flak over there in the US, but even though the plot didn't move forward too much there was a lot of interesting character-development. I thought that was such a good idea I did the same thing, but I haven't read it yet. I'm sure I won't get to see the movie until it comes out on DVD anyway. I can't believe the movie is directed by the same guy who did 300, which is way overrated if you ask me (Horrible/clicheƩ monologues, ridiculous and over-the-top CGI effects, and plot that only works as a graphic novel). It just seemed like the movie was trying to make Spartans look like the most awesome people ever, when, in reality, they were child-sodomizing fascists. Watchmen is awesome though. I'm putting it right up there with Iron Man, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, The Incredible Hulk, Batman and Batman Returns. Yeah, Ando is the more annoyed, grumpy one. I forgot to mention I love the fact that Hiro talks about watching Star Trek, and then later his father turns out to be...George Takei! Television irony! ;D I just watched the first ep of season 2 and liked it. I know the writer's strike affected season 2 a lot, but hopefully, having the whole season on DVD, and not having to wait and wonder when or if there's going to be a new epsiode, that won't be as much of a distraction as it was when it was airing. I never saw 300, but I do remember studying the Spartans in college and finding them quite disturbing. Not a society I would have wanted to live in. I'll probably see Watchmen after it's old news even as a DVD release. I just never get around to watchig movies...even those I want to see. Noah Bennet...like him or dislike him?
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Post by Dippy on Mar 12, 2009 19:03:46 GMT -5
I love Mr. Bennet. The idea that he can be a ruthless killer, while at the same time he's a loving father and family-man, is a very intriguing one. He's one of the more complex and interesting characters on the show in my opinion.
So I like him. He can seem pretty cold at times, but he's got a heart and he's only out to protect his family. Not trying to spoil too much by saying this, but my favourite character of the ones added in the second season is Takezo Kensei. ;D
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Post by Tsaalyo Phoenix on Mar 14, 2009 13:20:33 GMT -5
Take notes, Batman. ^_^
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Post by Dippy on Mar 14, 2009 14:05:11 GMT -5
Except Frank can't have killed him since he's still alive and all. FAIL.
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Post by Tsaalyo Phoenix on Mar 14, 2009 14:11:27 GMT -5
Actually, he didn't kill Joker because Sir Batman the Stupid intervened. -___________-
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Post by Dippy on Mar 14, 2009 17:28:59 GMT -5
"Intervened" by kicking Frank's ass? Just guessing on account that Batman has honed his body to physical perfection and is a master of several martial arts, while Frank is pretty much helpless without his guns.
It doesn't really matter as cross-overs are always written poorly. Either all the character's are garbage, or, at the very least, just those the writer isn't used to writing for.
Not that it seems like you care much about actual canon anyways. Saying Batman is stupid when he is, in fact, the world's greatest detective and has an IQ that would rival Reed Richards, is just retarded.
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Post by Tsaalyo Phoenix on Mar 14, 2009 19:30:41 GMT -5
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Post by Charlotte C on Mar 16, 2009 9:39:40 GMT -5
I love Mr. Bennet. The idea that he can be a ruthless killer, while at the same time he's a loving father and family-man, is a very intriguing one. He's one of the more complex and interesting characters on the show in my opinion. So I like him. He can seem pretty cold at times, but he's got a heart and he's only out to protect his family. Not trying to spoil too much by saying this, but my favourite character of the ones added in the second season is Takezo Kensei. ;D Complex--yes, he is. I didn't like him the first few episodes because I thought he didn't really care about his family, but then as it's slowly revealed that he does, I began to like him. And I loved when he pinned that snotty manager at Copy Kingdom or whatever it is to the table. That was awesome. I like Claire more in the 2nd season, too. She seems more interesting, and I like the way she has secrets from her dad and he has secrets from her and they just look at each other with shifty eyes at the dinner table. So far, though, I don't trust the flying boyfriend. He seems too good to be true. I like her mom better this season...she's less of a twit now that she knows what's going on. I like Kensei, too. When he first appears he is so exactly the opposite of what you expect, which makes me wonder...if Hiro hadn't traveled back, would Kensei have ever become a hero? But now I'm up to the part where Kensei switches sides after seeing the kiss...so, not sure if Hiro's going back is going to be good or bad. I must watch more... EDIT: Oooooh! Now I get it! It was Hiro all along, and the guy calling himself Kensei was...someone else.
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Post by Dippy on Mar 17, 2009 22:07:55 GMT -5
Oh, Batman is plenty intelligent, but he's not SMART. Do... Do you even know the meaning of the word intelligent? Batman's parents were shot to death right in front of his eyes when he was a little kid. "Duh, but Frank's family was killed too, by getting stuck in the crossfire in a mob shooting while having a picnic." Yeah, not the same. The biggest difference is that Frank wasn't an eight-year old boy. Bruce was. And seeing what happened to his parents at that young age screwed with his mind pretty badly. His parents were deliberately killed, so he hates killing. His parents were killed with a gun, so he hates guns. Frank, on the other hand, was a marine, or navy seal, or something like that when his family was killed so he was already pretty comfortable around firearms. Then there's the fact that their motives are very different. Batman has devoted his life to justice. he makes the decisions he makes because he knows if he resorted to killing he'd be no better than the criminals he hunts down. He has his rules, and he sticks by them no matter what. It might not make sense to you, but then you're not on the verge of being psychotic. 'Borderline crazy' does not equal 'stupid'. He's a hero who stands for what he believes in. Frank, on the other hand doesn't want justice. he wants revenge. He's an antihero who doesn't care what's morally right and wrong, as long as he gets his job done. By killing indiscriminately he's become a criminal himself. He's a big hypocrite, and no different from the people he kills. As for the comic, no real need to post the rest of it. As i already said, cross-overs are pretty much always god-awful. The art was especially bad. Sketchy, and the Joker looks like a bodybuilder. Both batman and the Joker were pretty OOC as well. Especially Batman letting the Joker go. Yeah, I'm sorry. It's not a good example of how 'stupid' the Batman is, because it's just very out of character.
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Post by Dippy on Mar 17, 2009 22:10:48 GMT -5
I love Mr. Bennet. The idea that he can be a ruthless killer, while at the same time he's a loving father and family-man, is a very intriguing one. He's one of the more complex and interesting characters on the show in my opinion. So I like him. He can seem pretty cold at times, but he's got a heart and he's only out to protect his family. Not trying to spoil too much by saying this, but my favourite character of the ones added in the second season is Takezo Kensei. ;D Complex--yes, he is. I didn't like him the first few episodes because I thought he didn't really care about his family, but then as it's slowly revealed that he does, I began to like him. And I loved when he pinned that snotty manager at Copy Kingdom or whatever it is to the table. That was awesome. I like Claire more in the 2nd season, too. She seems more interesting, and I like the way she has secrets from her dad and he has secrets from her and they just look at each other with shifty eyes at the dinner table. So far, though, I don't trust the flying boyfriend. He seems too good to be true. I like her mom better this season...she's less of a twit now that she knows what's going on. I like Kensei, too. When he first appears he is so exactly the opposite of what you expect, which makes me wonder...if Hiro hadn't traveled back, would Kensei have ever become a hero? But now I'm up to the part where Kensei switches sides after seeing the kiss...so, not sure if Hiro's going back is going to be good or bad. I must watch more... EDIT: Oooooh! Now I get it! It was Hiro all along, and the guy calling himself Kensei was...someone else. Well Kensei was the real Kensei. But all the Kensei stories Hiro grew up with were based on his own actions while he pretended to be Kensei, yes.
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Post by Mickey on Mar 18, 2009 2:35:51 GMT -5
And I'm done with the comic book. Now I'm not going to see the movie.
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Post by Tsaalyo Phoenix on Mar 18, 2009 17:18:02 GMT -5
Batman's mental problems hinder his justice-laying. ANY normal person would realize that Joker should be executed, both on the grounds that he just plain deserves it, and on the grounds that many of his crimes REQUIRE the death sentence. And that says nothing of all the other villains he refuses to kill. Either Batman is so mentally gone that he doesn't realize that his rules have indirectly killed a lot of people, or he's an idiot for realizing it and not therefore seeking the therapy required for him to do what is of the greatest benefit to society. As for all your charges against Punisher, to quote the recent movie, he's ok with that. But don't phrase it "killing indiscriminately." He doesn't murder anyone he pleases. He murders people who deserve it, but that the joke of a legal system and mentally ill superheroes protect.
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Post by Dippy on Mar 18, 2009 23:42:25 GMT -5
And I'm done with the comic book. Now I'm not going to see the movie. Why not? Not too fond of how it ended?
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Post by sleepyferret on Mar 19, 2009 1:03:51 GMT -5
Batman's mental problems hinder his justice-laying. ANY normal person would realize that Joker should be executed, both on the grounds that he just plain deserves it, and on the grounds that many of his crimes REQUIRE the death sentence. And that says nothing of all the other villains he refuses to kill. Either Batman is so mentally gone that he doesn't realize that his rules have indirectly killed a lot of people, or he's an idiot for realizing it and not therefore seeking the therapy required for him to do what is of the greatest benefit to society. As for all your charges against Punisher, to quote the recent movie, he's ok with that. But don't phrase it "killing indiscriminately." He doesn't murder anyone he pleases. He murders people who deserve it, but that the joke of a legal system and mentally ill superheroes protect. *pops up out of the ground in a very self-righteous and intrusive manner!!* I'm not exactly a Batman fan (I ain't hatin, but my only interest was ever in Harley xD), but I must say that NO ONE "deserves" to be murdered, and I will argue that until I pass out. XD Tsaal, you ever seen Trigun, or Avatar? You're into anime, right? It's like what Vash says, only...Vash is a lot goofier about the whole thing.
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Post by Mickey on Mar 19, 2009 2:36:38 GMT -5
And I'm done with the comic book. Now I'm not going to see the movie. Why not? Not too fond of how it ended? Not at all. It was very anticlimactic and had less action than boiling water to make vegetable soup. I'm not exactly a Batman fan (I ain't hatin, but my only interest was ever in Harley xD), but I must say that NO ONE "deserves" to be murdered, and I will argue that until I pass out. XD Not every case of one person dieing at the hands of another person is murder. For example, if someone breaks into my house and threatens the lives of my family, I will kill them. That's not murder.
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Post by Dippy on Mar 19, 2009 10:37:07 GMT -5
Either Batman is so mentally gone that he doesn't realize that his rules have indirectly killed a lot of people, or he's an idiot for realizing it and not therefore seeking the therapy required for him to do what is of the greatest benefit to society. And once again you're using the same, flawed "Crazy = Stupid" argument. I'm not going to go into it anymore. You clearly don't know the difference. As for Batman, of course he knows what the Joker has done. He's caused Batman the most grief of all, by killing the second Robin, paralyzing Batgirl and killing one of his best friends' wife. So yeah, Batman has a pretty good idea of what goes on. That doesn't mean he's going to stop following his own moral code that he's set for himself. As for all your charges against Punisher, to quote the recent movie, he's ok with that. Him being okay with being a hypocrite doesn't make him less of a hypocrite. But don't phrase it "killing indiscriminately." He doesn't murder anyone he pleases. I never said he did. I said he kills indiscriminately, as in he can kill anyone as long as he thinks they deserve it. Like someon who litters, downloads music or buys a pirated movie. I assume, since you love capital punishment so much, you must be hanging out with these guys:
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Post by Dippy on Mar 19, 2009 10:43:17 GMT -5
I'm not exactly a Batman fan (I ain't hatin, but my only interest was ever in Harley xD)
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Post by Dippy on Mar 19, 2009 10:47:17 GMT -5
Why not? Not too fond of how it ended? Not at all. It was very anticlimactic and had less action than boiling water to make vegetable soup. Ah. The movie certainly didn't have the ending I thought it would, but I thought it was interesting to finally see a superhero movie with that type of ending. I liked it, but I can see why it would put off some people.
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Post by sleepyferret on Mar 19, 2009 12:20:36 GMT -5
I'm not exactly a Batman fan (I ain't hatin, but my only interest was ever in Harley xD), but I must say that NO ONE "deserves" to be murdered, and I will argue that until I pass out. XD Not every case of one person dieing at the hands of another person is murder. For example, if someone breaks into my house and threatens the lives of my family, I will kill them. That's not murder. I wouldn't. If there is ANY WAY to resolve a situation without killing someone, shouldn't you find that way?
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Post by sleepyferret on Mar 19, 2009 12:22:58 GMT -5
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