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Post by Ashley Benlove on Aug 7, 2007 15:17:04 GMT -5
If it was me, I would have kicked his body. I hope they just threw him to the giant squid or buried him in a potter's field.
Yeah, I agree. I hate that a lot of the subplots never made it to the films.
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Post by nabusan on Aug 7, 2007 15:18:02 GMT -5
I wonder if Voldy's gonna get a proper burial? And if so, where?! ;D
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Post by Whisper from the Shadows on Aug 7, 2007 15:22:55 GMT -5
I wonder if Voldy's gonna get a proper burial? And if so, where?! ;D In the Weasley's garden, they'll have prize winning veggies for the next wizard's fair *ducks as people throw rotten fruit at me*. But I'm sure that he'll get a proper burial at the family plot, as the saying goes, it's not how you treat your own that makes you civilized, it's how you treat your enemies.
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Aug 7, 2007 15:28:30 GMT -5
But he doesn't have any family.
His uncle and grandfather died in Azkaban, his mother died a la Padme (just long enough to name 'em like her) but without being a Senator and former Queen, and he hated his Muggle relatives.
My mom and I spent some time wondering where Snape would be buried. She said that he'd either have been buried next to the Potters (mainly Lily) or next to Dumbledore. To me, burying him next to Dumbledore would have made sense. Dumbledore and him got on good based on his memories.
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Post by nabusan on Aug 7, 2007 15:30:14 GMT -5
They could always transfigure him into a bone ^^
Poor Barty Crouch Sr...
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Aug 7, 2007 15:31:40 GMT -5
I wonder whatever happened to Barty Crouch Jr. I mean, he's alive but he's basically braindead (wikipedia calls it some kind of vegetative state).
I feel sorry for Colin Creevey. I really liked Dennis, his brother (I shan't forget his squeaky voiced saying, "I fell in my lake).
His poor muggle family.
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Post by nabusan on Aug 7, 2007 15:40:20 GMT -5
I had the hots for Barty Crouch Jr. in the fourth book, I'm so glad he was hot in the movie too!
Yaay for Doctor Who!
The snake tongue thing was a bit much, though...
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Aug 8, 2007 8:40:35 GMT -5
I thought so too. He amused me though. He was dressed so well, and there were these random police guys (I was like, "who are those guys? Policemen don't exist in the Wizarding World, Amos Diggory would have known what they are.")
My favorite part is just for the battle of Hogwarts starts. And Percy comes in. I love how Fleur and Lupin are trying to ignore what's going on with Harry and being like, "How's Teddy?" And whatnot. That just makes me crack up.
I love Fleur. Her parents were NICE, I was shocked to find out. I mean, they were French, I assume that French are snotty. She's so close to Gabrielle.
And I love how the Deathly Hallows is like the Holy Grail of the series. Haha.
The one thing I found weird was that the epitaphs on the Dumbledore's and the Potter's graves were from the Bible. I mean, I guess that's why Hermione clarified it for Harry. I just expected her to be like, "OH, THAT'S FROM THE BIBLE, THIS BOOK, AND THIS CHAPTER AND THIS VERSE." I expect Hermione, regardless of her religious beliefs to have read the Bible till she memorized it as a child.
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Post by nabusan on Aug 8, 2007 15:25:06 GMT -5
I was THOROUGHLY shocked by how un-snooty Fleurs parents were. J.K. didn't play on a stereotype, which is a relief. I thought they'd be all like, eww - our daughter's marrying someone with a poor family? I've said this before, but I'll say it again - I'm weirded out by how little money trouble the Weasley's had in this book. Mrs Weasley organized a wedding, and bought a new dress! Then again, wizarding weddings can probably be conjured up or somethin'. I can't believe Ginny got jealous of Gabrielle, lol. And wow I didn't know those parts were from the Bible!
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Post by Whisper from the Shadows on Aug 8, 2007 15:30:07 GMT -5
I have a question for guys, am I the only one that thought this book seemed a bit rushed (not a lot, but a bit), and the epilogue thingy at the end was a waste of a paper? I just felt like it crammed about a book and a half or two books worth of story into one book, and I thought it would be best to leave it with a semi-open ending. She tied up all the necessary strings, and then added a bunch at the end that didn't need to be there IMO.
I just wanted to know if I was alone in this line of thought.
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Post by nabusan on Aug 8, 2007 15:35:24 GMT -5
I concur that it was rushed, and the Epilogue was sucky. I would NOT have expected such cliche stuff from J.K.Rowling, never in a million years. If she'd had a hundred more pages, she could have paced it better. But personally, I think it only started to get rushy after they'd escaped Gringotts.
In my humble opinion, this is the weakest of the seven books. It was looking to be the best up until half-way through, though.
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Post by Whisper from the Shadows on Aug 8, 2007 20:29:17 GMT -5
I concur that it was rushed, and the Epilogue was sucky. I would NOT have expected such cliche stuff from J.K.Rowling, never in a million years. If she'd had a hundred more pages, she could have paced it better. But personally, I think it only started to get rushy after they'd escaped Gringotts. In my humble opinion, this is the weakest of the seven books. It was looking to be the best up until half-way through, though. I went and skimmed it after reading your post and you're right, I never noticed it was paced good until they broke the Dragon free (BTW, friggin' awesome scene). And I'm not sure what the deal is with the epilogue that I didn't like, it was almost like it was wrote by someone with half the talent she showed the rest of the series. And while it may have been the weakest in mechanics (the pace, the subplots seemed lacking, etc...) I'm still thinking it's one of the best content of the series. And until I was about 3 hrs into it, I thought it was going to be the greatest book of the entire series, hands down, but like you said, half way through it and you had a WTF moment.
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Post by Scoutcraft Piratess on Aug 8, 2007 22:42:02 GMT -5
My spoiler-free thoughts:
I laughed at the epilogue, but in her defense I understand why she did it that way. I know what it's like to write something and decide you hate it. She has a good defense for her epilogue.
I felt the book should have been longer. Too much was summarized.
Plot was amazing. Most subplots have been wrapped up earlier. I also agree that she lost out on some mechanics, but I do believe that this was overall the best writing.
Ooh, we also made up camp code to discuss the book. It got wild. Especially because our commissioner Mike was code for Harry. Only hours before he found out he was representing Harry he had a fight over the phone with his girlfriend where he told her that she loved Harry Potter more than him.
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Aug 9, 2007 8:28:01 GMT -5
I concur that it was rushed, and the Epilogue was sucky. I would NOT have expected such cliche stuff from J.K.Rowling, never in a million years. If she'd had a hundred more pages, she could have paced it better. But personally, I think it only started to get rushy after they'd escaped Gringotts. In my humble opinion, this is the weakest of the seven books. It was looking to be the best up until half-way through, though. Personally, I didn't like the Gringotts part. For me, I thought that was a total waste of time. I really did. The best part of the book was the wedding and the final battle, as well as the destruction of Horcrux 3 (the locket). But, in general, I liked the book. Even if most of the book is just three teenagers sitting around talking in a tent/house/room/outside.
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Post by nabusan on Aug 9, 2007 19:04:10 GMT -5
I still wonder how the heck they went to the toilet, had a shower and found the time to 'relieve' themselves [though, that's probably not as urgent ;D]?!
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Post by Whisper from the Shadows on Aug 9, 2007 23:19:36 GMT -5
A lot of people step behind a tree to use the restroom while camping, they know the Scurgify charm (I think that's what it's called), and... well, I think they had other things on their minds at the time (like avoiding Avada Kadavra curses).
However, I'm still not sure how Harry kept his sanity being left alone with a beautiful young woman like Hermione, in a tent, in the middle of nowhere, with their lives constantly on the line... You get the idea.
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Post by nabusan on Aug 10, 2007 4:21:55 GMT -5
ZOMG, I wonder if they brushed their teeth(!)
;D It's all the little things ^^ Hey, twas a big tent - I'm sure it had a bathroom too.
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Aug 10, 2007 8:03:22 GMT -5
I still wonder how the heck they went to the toilet, had a shower and found the time to 'relieve' themselves [though, that's probably not as urgent ;D]?! I agree. But, then again, for the entire length of the books, we see a total of four bathrooms. Troll Bathroom, Mrytle Bathroom, Prefect Bathroom, and Draco Gets Sectumsempra Bathroom. Hermione does have an undignified line in book 2 where she's says, "You try having a pee when she [Mrytle] is all moanin." Or something. I'm still shocked at that line. A lot of people step behind a tree to use the restroom while camping, they know the Scurgify charm (I think that's what it's called), and... well, I think they had other things on their minds at the time (like avoiding Avada Kadavra curses). However, I'm still not sure how Harry kept his sanity being left alone with a beautiful young woman like Hermione, in a tent, in the middle of nowhere, with their lives constantly on the line... You get the idea. Scourgify, I believe. Yeah, they did have other things on their minds during those... what was it... 9 months or so that they spent in tents. I think it was nine months, they did spend like 2 months in "The World is Fleur's!" land. Haha. I love Fleur. She's so tempermental. I can't understand how Bill puts up with her. Well, they were okay, obviously. I mean, the closest we got to intimacy was the fact that Lupin and Tonks have a child, and Harry and Ginny's extremely overly passionate kiss in which Ron scolds Harry afterward, and the kiss in the battle of Hogwarts between Ron and Hermione to which Harry yells, "OI! There's a war going on here!" Greatest line ever. Reminds me of that big arse kiss in Empire Strikes Back between Han and Leia.
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Post by Ninnik Nishukan on Aug 10, 2007 8:33:50 GMT -5
Are there any threads of DH with spoilers?
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Post by nabusan on Aug 10, 2007 8:44:51 GMT -5
I think this thread has spoilers now ^^
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