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Post by slicknickshady on Aug 14, 2007 1:04:39 GMT -5
Here you go cloudmonet. The confirmed production number thread. ronstoppable.proboards89.com/index.cgi?board=episode&action=display&thread=1179523417As you can see Steve said he does not know how disney does there numbers but that these ones he posted are the actuall ones. There must be a story about why "Nursery Crimes" and "Chasing Rufus" are so far apart. Steve said they would be separate production numbers instead of the normal "a" and "b" thing. I think Chasing Rufus is earlier in the season because kim does not have her new mission gear on. In Nursery Crimes Kim has the new Mission Gear. It may be easier to just wait untill after the final two episodes.
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Post by cloudmonet on Aug 14, 2007 12:42:49 GMT -5
The only problem with what you just said is "Nursery Crimes" is early, while "Chasing Rufus" is very near the end. Let me go back and look at this.
dot dot dot
Okay, I went back to look at my DVD. Kim has her wrist kimmunicator in both these episodes, no mission clothes at all in "Chasing Rufus, and the newer mission clothes in "Nursery Crimes." Worse, Ron refers to Hana in "Nursery Crimes," which means it must happen after "Big Bother." Perhaps what happened was that although work started on "Nursery Crimes" fairly early, but by the time it was finished, they made Kim's gear and other details consistent with a later time.
For purposes of analysis, I think we should just pair this with "Chasing Rufus," somewhere near the end.
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Post by campy on Aug 14, 2007 13:12:09 GMT -5
I think Chasing Rufus is earlier in the season because kim does not have her new mission gear on. ? Kim never wears either mission outfit in "Chasing Rufus." She does have the wrist Kimmunicator, though, so it must be after "Homecoming Upset."
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Post by slicknickshady on Aug 14, 2007 14:12:17 GMT -5
I think Chasing Rufus is earlier in the season because kim does not have her new mission gear on. Kim never wears either mission outfit in "Chasing Rufus." She does have the wrist Kimmunicator, though, so it must be after "Homecoming Upset." That's correct. Kim & Ron did not go on any missions. So i agree they both should be after the new Kimminicator got introduced. Okay, I went back to look at my DVD. Kim has her wrist kimmunicator in both these episodes, no mission clothes at all in "Chasing Rufus, and the newer mission clothes in "Nursery Crimes." Worse, Ron refers to Hana in "Nursery Crimes," which means it must happen after "Big Bother." Perhaps what happened was that although work started on "Nursery Crimes" fairly early, but by the time it was finished, they made Kim's gear and other details consistent with a later time. For purposes of analysis, I think we should just pair this with "Chasing Rufus," somewhere near the end. Like with what Bob said it's possible chasing rufus was made before they decided to make the new outfit..... I mean, you can't just ignore it. Actually, we can.
Okay... If you must know...
The simple answer is we considered all of the holiday episodes outside of any continuity, since they only air them the months of the holiday anyway. The more complicated answer is that we came up with the V-Day idea before we came up with the new outfit. The honest answer is, because we had a variety of experiences with episodes being shown out of order, we never considered continuity of every last detail to be of paramount importance. We worried much more of how things played out within an episode rather than wasting screen time on little details that most people wouldn't notice anyway. This season we had a bit more fun tipping our hat to the continuity obsessed with lots of cross references, but that was mostly for fun.
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Post by Forlong on Aug 14, 2007 18:11:55 GMT -5
Okay, here's the list agian to clarify (* means we've covered that epi): #401- Ill Suited* #402- Car Alarm* #403- Trading Faces* #404-The Big Job* #405- Mad Dogs And Aliens* #406- Nursery Crimes #407- The Cupid Effect #408- Clothes Minded #409- Fashion Victim #410- Odds Man In #411- Grande Size Me #412- Big Bother #413- Clean Slate #414- Mathter And Fervent #415- Homecoming Upset #416- Mentor Of Discontent #417- Cap'n Drakken #418- Stop Team Go #419- Larry's Birthday #420- Oh No Yono #421- Chasing Rufus #422- Graduation Pt. 1 #423- Graduation Pt. 2
Nursery Crimes
I didn't see a lot of shipping in this episode. But it is a half-leighth one.
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Post by cloudmonet on Aug 15, 2007 14:15:47 GMT -5
"Nursery Crimes" can't possibly happen yet, because Ron mentions baby sister Hana, who is introduced in "Big Bother," and she wears the new outfit, introduced in "Fashion Victim" (or is it "Clothes Minded"? I always get these two mixed up!), and uses the wrist kimmunicator, apparently introduced in "Homecoming Upset." This potentially throws off the significance of whatever shipping material we have here— but since there are potentially other episodes in this list also have anomalies, though perhaps not such extreme ones, I'll do "Nursery Crimes" if you want.
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Post by ninjanaco on Aug 15, 2007 14:44:20 GMT -5
Clothes Minded.
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Post by slicknickshady on Aug 15, 2007 16:49:45 GMT -5
"Nursery Crimes" can't possibly happen yet, because Ron mentions baby sister Hana, who is introduced in "Big Bother," and she wears the new outfit, introduced in "Fashion Victim" (or is it "Clothes Minded"? I always get these two mixed up!), and uses the wrist kimmunicator, apparently introduced in "Homecoming Upset." This potentially throws off the significance of whatever shipping material we have here— but since there are potentially other episodes in this list also have anomalies, though perhaps not such extreme ones, I'll do "Nursery Crimes" if you want. Not Nursery Crimes. That episode has to be after Big Bother. Kim has her old Mission Clothes in Big Bother. That would be before Clothes Minded. Grande Size Me would be before that and I believe we can go by production number for those two. I believe "Grande Size Me" "Big Bother" and "The Cupid Effect" should be the next three followed be "Clothes Minded" which is the first episode with her new Mission Clothes. These would be my next for. You make the final call cloud. You started these threads and I trust you're decision.
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Post by cloudmonet on Aug 16, 2007 12:18:55 GMT -5
Are Grande-Size Me, Big Bother, and Cupid Effect the only ones we haven't done with Kim's old clothes?
It is possible that some episode with old clothes must take place after some episode with new clothes for other internal reasons. We'll have to watch out for any details like that. I don't mean seasonal stuff like holidays or football games, which are clearly whacked and unusable for sequencing, but recurring new characters, events cross-referenced, that kind of stuff.
Any particular reason for putting these three in that order? Production has Cupid Effect followed by Grande Size Me and Big Bother. If detailed analysis reveals a "true" order we can reinterpret what's already written in light of this, but I doubt that a completely consistent sequence is possible. Wouldn't hurt to try, though.
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Post by slicknickshady on Aug 16, 2007 12:53:49 GMT -5
Are Grande-Size Me, Big Bother, and Cupid Effect the only ones we haven't done with Kim's old clothes? It is possible that some episode with old clothes must take place after some episode with new clothes for other internal reasons. We'll have to watch out for any details like that. I don't mean seasonal stuff like holidays or football games, which are clearly whacked and unusable for sequencing, but recurring new characters, events cross-referenced, that kind of stuff. Any particular reason for putting these three in that order? Production has Cupid Effect followed by Grande Size Me and Big Bother. If detailed analysis reveals a "true" order we can reinterpret what's already written in light of this, but I doubt that a completely consistent sequence is possible. Wouldn't hurt to try, though. We don't here a thing about a baby sister in Cupid Effect and Grande Size Me. So that's why I imagine Big Bother is the last of the three. Grande Size Me and Cupid Effect don't really have anything that distinguises each other for being before and after. So I don't think it matters if we go Grande Size Me, Cupid Effect, and Big Bother or Cupid Effect, Grande Size Me, and Big Bother. I think it's smart to not try to figure it out all that once. I do think these should be the next three. After those three are done then we pick 3 more and decide the order and after those pick 3 more and go in order so on and so fourth. It's up to you. I don't think you will see any arguing over the order you pick. lol.
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Post by Forlong on Aug 18, 2007 9:03:52 GMT -5
So you don't want to do Nursery Crimes. I guess that means we should do The Cupid Effect. I liked this episode for three major reasons: 1: It's a Vallintine's Day episode. I've wanted to see that for years. 2: We finnally find out about Monique's personal life a bit. The only bit info about her we had for three years was that she had an older brother (maybe that's the reason she couldn't get a date). 3: It's a Wade centric episode. 'Bout time! Okay, so it opens on Kim and Monique talking about Valintine's Day. Kim is in denial about the fact that Ron forgot it. And, to make matters wierd, Wade falls head over heels for Monique. Try and contain yourselves Wade/Monique shippers. Anyway, throughout the episode, Ron tries playing matchmaker. Apparently, he's a good poet if his poem made Barkin give him an "A". Ashley's arguement earlier about Kim and Ron "rounding the bases" has more to it at this point. The looks they're giving each other says to me that they plan on doing more than just kissing. It also seems to me that Ron's a lot smarter. And there's always that last line: Kim: You're wierd. Ron: Hey. Kim: Sh. I like wierd. Awwwww. I'm sure Cloud will be able to give us more to talk about. He's cool that way.
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Post by mike on Aug 18, 2007 9:26:33 GMT -5
I feel Kim jumped on Ron later that day giving him a [bleep]job..... ;D
/* K/R reached second base on V-day, IMHO*/
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Post by slicknickshady on Aug 18, 2007 20:25:04 GMT -5
The looks they gave each other at the end of that episode were amazing. Rufus Loving It. Going in for the Kiss. Doh! ;D
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Post by Forlong on Aug 21, 2007 15:37:09 GMT -5
If that's it, should we move on to "Grade Size Me"?
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Post by slicknickshady on Aug 21, 2007 15:37:57 GMT -5
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Post by Forlong on Apr 6, 2008 17:10:03 GMT -5
Someone wanted this thread bumped back up. Shall we discus once again?
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Post by ferryport1987 on Apr 6, 2008 18:05:22 GMT -5
K/R FOREVER :-)
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Post by ninjanaco on Apr 7, 2008 8:23:33 GMT -5
Well, since the thread was necrobumped, let me just contradict cloudmonet's claim that the deleted extension of the closet scene in "Ill-Suited" makes the tweeb K/R shippers. For one thing, they ultimately decide to help Ron not because it will help K/R, but because it will be "pulling one" on Kim (or something like that). Furthermore, they both express disgust at Kim dating Ron in "Graduation" (which is one of the parts of that episode I hated. Are we to believe Kim's brothers still haven't reached puberty? One of the opportunities I think TPTB missed was to show the tweebs as they realized that they, well, "want cooties"...)
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Post by ferryport1987 on Apr 7, 2008 11:11:33 GMT -5
well the reason for that in Graduation is because K/R is like a high class girl dating a low class guy is also like me dating a filthy rich girl...pass...i don't like rich girls...i like poor girls...they have more feelings than the rich ones
anyways...for the crowd...it looks wird seeing Kim and Ron dating...but for me they look good together...is like D/S one is old and other young...but both make such a cute couple no doubt about it... so K/R one smart and intelegent...the other one lazy and not smart...but with this they equal a cute pair...i mean i know they weren't soulmates as listed in the episode ANIMAL ATTREACTION...i mean who knows maybe Kim or Ron made a mistake in one of the questions...because both were meant for each other...this also go the same with D/S
K/R and D/S forever
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Post by Forlong on Apr 7, 2008 19:46:45 GMT -5
well the reason for that in Graduation is because K/R is like a high class girl dating a low class guy is also like me dating a filthy rich girl...pass...i don't like rich girls...i like poor girls...they have more feelings than the rich ones Even Emma Watson?
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