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Post by Aers (That Writer Chick) on Jun 6, 2005 17:18:13 GMT -5
reviews are GREAT - anyone who tells you that they hate getting reviews or don't care is outright lying, you can be sure of that. but you can't depend on them for your sole inspiration to write - I've sold non-fanfic stories in the past few years and gotten NO feedback on the majority of them because people just don't usually write fan letters to authors. Even in this electronic age and all. I can only go by the fact that the editor(s) liked my story enough to BUY it to be my feedback. Sure, I'd love to get more and detailed analysis of each sale, but I'll have to be content with having it published. use the feedback; cherish the feedback; respect the feedback and embrace the feedback - but don't use it for your sole source of inspiration. that's gotta come from inside ya... zen lesson over. *falls off soapbox* *trips over Diablo hot sauce* *falls into trash can* *trash can rolls out of room*
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Post by Felix on Jun 7, 2005 10:26:15 GMT -5
I wasn't trying to say I write solely for the reviewers or people who read the story. I think you misunderstood my post.
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Post by Aers (That Writer Chick) on Jun 7, 2005 10:35:09 GMT -5
I wasn't trying to say I write solely for the reviewers or people who read the story. I think you misunderstood my post. oh, no no no - my major apologies there - I wasn't responding directly to your post and am sorry if I made it sound that way... I was just making a general observation/comment... and in no way was responding or commenting on your own post. me bad. me go flog self with ramen noodles. uncooked.
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Post by Felix on Jun 7, 2005 10:40:37 GMT -5
Oh, I thought it was kinda directed at me, oh well no harm done.
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Post by Quin Separable on Jun 13, 2005 10:35:32 GMT -5
[shadow=red,left,300]Ok, on the flip side of reviews, I hate when people say that you should do so and so to this character or add more of this or get these two characters to hook up....I don't like it when people tell you what you should do with your story. I already have a storyline all planned out...
Then there's the flame reviews. I hate those. I don't know if any of you have read my story "If Life Was A Dream"....well, someone made it a point that they didn't like my ending. Ok no big. But then they decided to say "it's a shame you didn't follow through". That was uncalled for (at least in my opinion it was). [/shadow]
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Post by Wysteria Fox on Jun 17, 2005 17:25:28 GMT -5
[shadow=red,left,300]Ok, on the flip side of reviews, I hate when people say that you should do so and so to this character or add more of this or get these two characters to hook up....I don't like it when people tell you what you should do with your story. I already have a storyline all planned out... Then there's the flame reviews. I hate those. I don't know if any of you have read my story "If Life Was A Dream"....well, someone made it a point that they didn't like my ending. Ok no big. But then they decided to say "it's a shame you didn't follow through". That was uncalled for (at least in my opinion it was). [/shadow] Yeah or when they tell you that you have no plotline and that it's just pure fluff when the story is only on chapter 4. That really gets my goat...
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Post by CelestialTime93 on Aug 17, 2005 20:05:28 GMT -5
What really bugs me about the fanfics that I read is the spelling errors, and the way that they get the characters out of character. I prefer it if they just stayed in their original character. After all, these characters aren't by us. They're by Mark McCorkle and Bob Schooley. We just watch them and write our own adventures for them. When I write mine, I try to stay as much in character as possible. And, I try to think of what little things they would change if they grew up in the future. I think of that a lot when I'm writing the Lotus Legends books. It's so hard. And, I agree with Trapper. Just because Ron is a klutz, doesn't mean he's always like that. And I hate slashes. At first, I didn't know what they meant, so I didn't take a risk. I checked that up on Wikipedia, and found out the meaning. And I hate those type of stories. The only type of slash I like, is the originals, like Will and Grace. That's a good show. So, I don't like slash, I don't like spelling errors, since most people who write on Fan Fiction.net are usually at least 12-13 years old. And I also hate when there's too much of drama, and all of the other bad stuff which I'm sure the characters would never do. I especially hate hero/villain pairings. I've seen a few summaries which warned the readers about it, and it just freaks me out that they wrote something like that. I don't like stories in which there's too much betrayal and stuff like that, which falls into the too much drama category. Other stuff, well, here's a list: weird crossovers, lemon and lime fanfics (check that up on Wikipedia), alternate universe fanfics, hateful fanfics, MSTings, too many fluffs in fanfics and putting them in the wrong time, and virtual seasons ('cause everyone's fanfics are original and don't deserve to be combined with the plot of another. That's just simply copying!). That's all of 'em I think. So, if you wanna impress me with a fanfic, follow the list that I wrote. Well, that's my list. Now I'm ready to see yours!
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Mobius
Yellow Trout
Someday
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Post by Mobius on Aug 17, 2005 22:57:19 GMT -5
I think you have kind of missed the point of fanfics. I'm glad to see that you have obvious likes and dislikes but you really limit yourself to what is out there. I'm not a big fan of slash but some of them are very well done, same with hero/villan pairings.
There really has to be a wide variety or there wouldn't be much to read, it would have all been written. I'm not saying you should like all of it, but don't dismiss it out of hand.
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Yellow Trout
Fire In the Beuno Nacho
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Post by FLiP on Aug 18, 2005 1:02:03 GMT -5
The only thing that really bugs me is the lack of proper spelling. It's called a spellcheck! Nothing is worse than a great premise ruined by spelling and grammatical errors.
I try to stay in character as much as I can (well, technically I've only really written one piece of fiction, and it isn't complete yet...) while still being somewhat plausible.
Oh, and feedback is great, they pick out errors and stuff that you might otherwise miss.
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Post by Aers (That Writer Chick) on Aug 18, 2005 7:59:17 GMT -5
got to agree about the spelling - the way I look at it, anything you post online should be at LEAST as good as what you would submit at school or work. so if you spell "Shego" as "Shigo" I'm going to think that you're not that serious about your fanfiction nor the audience waiting to read it. Work at producing a good product and the reviews will follow. as for canon vs everything else... - if you don't like it, don't read it.
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Post by captainkodak1 on Aug 18, 2005 8:24:10 GMT -5
Spelling and grammar. Two very important things. I realize that some of the writers are writing in a language other than their main one. This I know is difficult. But for those who have grown up on the English language there is no excuse for poor spelling or grammar. I am not the best but I run everything I write through a spell and grammar check several times. I then reread the chapter several times more. You will always find those little errors that spell check will miss.
As for different types of stories. I will try and read them but some are just written to have sex, violence and foul language in them just to have them there. Do something with the story. Let the character or characters grow in someway. Let the story make a statement on something. Now I am not discounting the occasional story just for entertainment, just work at making the story.
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Post by yvj on Aug 19, 2005 1:56:54 GMT -5
There's nothing worse then getting no reviews or equally as bad is noticing how your story has 350 hits but two reviews. Sometimes it makes you want to abandon your fic completely because it starts to feel like the titanic. I wish that, even if people didn't like your story they'd at least tell you why, so you can fix it. Is the story so repugnant that you can't bring yourself to tell someone what's wrong with it? (Hmmm I may be coming off a bitter here) In my experience the good writers will often help other writers. I've seen cases where, for example G-go or Gargoyle Sama and captainkodak1 will give good advice to other writers. Which is a very nice thing to do. Anyway spelling and grammar are important to a story (believe me I should now ) and can distract the reader if it's excessively bad. Really short chapters tend to annoy me. I've seen some stories where the first chapter is a single paragraph. What's the deal with that? I also hate it when some people update just to tell you their computer is screwed up or they're going on vacation. I just don't think you need to upload a new chapter for that. It just gets me all hyped up for nothing. (That's so beautiful, words for writers to live by from Aers) And hey has anyone seen that Ron/Rufus fic that's out there . Holy crap even the reviews are scandalous
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Post by Quin Separable on Aug 21, 2005 9:35:57 GMT -5
[shadow=red,left,300]You know what I really hate? (wow sounded like Shego there. lol)
When someone steals a character you worked so hard to devolpe and uses him\her in one of their own stories without permission!
It's happened to me. An author (whom I won't name) decided to use my OC Quin Separable in one of his\her fanfictions. She only appeared in the story once, but I was far from happy! Is it too hard to ask an author to borrow their character? (Of course I probably would have said no because of the type of fic it was).[/shadow]
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Post by Aers (That Writer Chick) on Aug 21, 2005 12:18:55 GMT -5
[shadow=red,left,300]You know what I really hate? (wow sounded like Shego there. lol) When someone steals a character you worked so hard to devolpe and uses him\her in one of their own stories without permission! It's happened to me. An author (whom I won't name) decided to use my OC Quin Separable in one of his\her fanfictions. She only appeared in the story once, but I was far from happy! Is it too hard to ask an author to borrow their character? (Of course I probably would have said no because of the type of fic it was).[/shadow] it's happened to me in XF fanfiction - I immediately went into hyperoverdrive, sending a nice but HARSH note to the author asking that they pull the story from all archives AND removing it from their files... or rewriting it to remove my character. I usually followed that up with major checks on all the archives and informing the webmaster if that story had appeared and the violation of my OC... yep, I'm a biotch when that happens... it's the redhead in me.
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Post by Quin Separable on Aug 21, 2005 18:37:53 GMT -5
[shadow=red,left,300]You know what I really hate? (wow sounded like Shego there. lol) When someone steals a character you worked so hard to devolpe and uses him\her in one of their own stories without permission! It's happened to me. An author (whom I won't name) decided to use my OC Quin Separable in one of his\her fanfictions. She only appeared in the story once, but I was far from happy! Is it too hard to ask an author to borrow their character? (Of course I probably would have said no because of the type of fic it was).[/shadow] it's happened to me in XF fanfiction - I immediately went into hyperoverdrive, sending a nice but HARSH note to the author asking that they pull the story from all archives AND removing it from their files... or rewriting it to remove my character. I usually followed that up with major checks on all the archives and informing the webmaster if that story had appeared and the violation of my OC... yep, I'm a biotch when that happens... it's the redhead in me. [shadow=red,left,300]I did that when I first saw that, but (s)he didn't respond. I think I'm going to have to do it again.[/shadow]
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Post by Sarah Ashley T. on Aug 21, 2005 20:04:22 GMT -5
Wow, well, seeing how i am a D/S shipper, one thing I have noticed a lot in most D/S fanfics is that a lot of them tend to have around the basic plot line... "Drakken and shego get drunk, they end up having sex, Shego gets pregnant.. gets mad a Drakken/or keeps it a secret, but eventually he finds out.. they decide to keep the baby, they fall in love, but someone (normally Dementor) is out for revenge, so they most likely go to Kim for help, and they have the baby and get married... blahblahblah." It was ok the first couple times, but then it's like.. w/e. Also, most of those kind of fanfics get them out of character, because they're worrying about a baby and junk.
Other pet peeves of mine are: ~I'm alright with some cuddling and junk, but at times it gets to outta hand and the characters get out of character. I mean, yes, i understand, they are humans and have human desires.. but at the same time it's a tad strange to think about them making out or having sex. ~The way the people format their stories.. some of them have it all wacked out. ~Too many grammar/spelling mistakes. I understand those who don't speak English as a first language, and tolerate that. ~Constant use of abbreviations, like: ppl, ttyl, brb, etc... It's not an online chat! ~I'm alright with certain slash pictures, but with fanfics it's a bit weird, cause, they're so out of character, cause it would never work, that it almost seems like it isn't even about them. :-\ Some people do a very good job, though. ~Other things.
* Also, I forgot to mention.. I like fanfics that are usually Romance/Humor or Romance/Drama. Yesh, i'm a big romantic type, but I tend to like to laugh while reading fanfics x3 Angst is ok too.. but only when it's really in character. I like them whe they're well written and have been put a lot of thought into... that way it makes me really think about the characters and their real, true feelings.
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Post by Aers (That Writer Chick) on Aug 21, 2005 21:13:35 GMT -5
it's happened to me in XF fanfiction - I immediately went into hyperoverdrive, sending a nice but HARSH note to the author asking that they pull the story from all archives AND removing it from their files... or rewriting it to remove my character. I usually followed that up with major checks on all the archives and informing the webmaster if that story had appeared and the violation of my OC... yep, I'm a biotch when that happens... it's the redhead in me. [shadow=red,left,300]I did that when I first saw that, but (s)he didn't respond. I think I'm going to have to do it again.[/shadow] it's just my opinion, of course - but HUNT HIM/HER DOWN... I know it may seem rather petty to anyone else, but your character is YOUR character - and it's not only good manners but also just good sense to at least give you credit AND check with you. if nothing else, put out the word that you disapprove of this fanfiction on this point... let your fans know that you're not keen on this and they may be able to "encourage" the author to revise/edit/delete the fanfic in question... yes, I'm rather passionate about these things.
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Post by Quin Separable on Aug 23, 2005 19:16:36 GMT -5
[shadow=red,left,300]I did that when I first saw that, but (s)he didn't respond. I think I'm going to have to do it again.[/shadow] it's just my opinion, of course - but HUNT HIM/HER DOWN... I know it may seem rather petty to anyone else, but your character is YOUR character - and it's not only good manners but also just good sense to at least give you credit AND check with you. if nothing else, put out the word that you disapprove of this fanfiction on this point... let your fans know that you're not keen on this and they may be able to "encourage" the author to revise/edit/delete the fanfic in question... yes, I'm rather passionate about these things. [shadow=red,left,300]I kept getting the impression I was being petty, after all, they only used her name. I will try to email him\her tomorrow (hopefully).[/shadow]
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Post by cloudmonet on Aug 24, 2005 0:09:28 GMT -5
How unusual is the name?
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Post by Mr. Dubois a.k.a IvyMae on Aug 31, 2005 11:31:16 GMT -5
For the most part I agree with quite a lot of you... Grammar is a big thing for me, switching tense, SongFICs!! ugh... mary sues, Badly written K/R romance stories... pointless stories that have no plot other than to write the characters having sex as many times as possible... badly written sex stories... when characters are OOC (but I do have exceptions to the rule)... crossovers!! hmmm that's all for now... but I'm sure I could think of more.
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