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Post by maetch on Oct 11, 2007 11:18:14 GMT -5
I just don't like pairing-heavy fics, period. Romance is NOT why I like KP, and I can't understand why people make such a big deal out of it.
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Post by NewSkool101 on Oct 11, 2007 11:28:10 GMT -5
I just don't like pairing-heavy fics, period. Romance is NOT why I like KP, and I can't understand why people make such a big deal out of it. Ehh, some people like KP for the pairings, some like it for the humor, others for the plot, or the witty jokes/dialogue, or the character interactions, or any number of things on the show or in the fandom. People like what they like. I believe that's the moral of the story here. |
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Post by Mickey on Oct 11, 2007 12:50:25 GMT -5
What if they break K/R up and create no other ships? (Again, I still have to wonder why it is so necessary to be shippy in every freakin' fic). Well, the way I always understood flowery prose, it was an insult. It means a writer has absolutely no story to tell, so makes up for it by overusing words. Still no. K/R breakup= canon rape. There is NOTHING, short of death or mind control, that would believably break them up. And the second wouldn't even be permanent, seeing as it has an obvious solution. How about getting out into the real world? Sometimes even childhood sweetheart couples break up in the course of adulthood. Kim and Ron are only 18. Many people marry the person they think is their soulmate, only to get divorced later. It happens. Couples break up, no matter how strong they appear on the outside. |
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Post by MrDrP on Oct 11, 2007 13:25:43 GMT -5
Still no. K/R breakup= canon rape. There is NOTHING, short of death or mind control, that would believably break them up. And the second wouldn't even be permanent, seeing as it has an obvious solution. How about getting out into the real world? Sometimes even childhood sweetheart couples break up in the course of adulthood. Kim and Ron are only 18. Many people marry the person they think is their soulmate, only to get divorced later. It happens. Couples break up, no matter how strong they appear on the outside. Couples also stay together. Implicit in your statement is that Kim and Ron will break up when they get older. Most HS sweethearts haven't shared the same kind of bonding experiences that Kim and Ron have. BTW I just had the pleasure of meeting a real world couple who'd been together 43 years, ever since their sophomore year of high school. |
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Post by Alexlayer on Oct 11, 2007 14:06:25 GMT -5
Kim and Ron are a couple during Season 4. Deal.
Can they stay together forever? Most surely.
WILL they stay together forever? Nobody knows. Unless we've had recieved an epiloge or a flashforward (Opposite of Flashback) of them as an old couple, which he haven't had.
Couples can break and can stay together. Whatever the author of a fanfic does is plausible as long as it is well done. Nobody around here is someone like to dictate their destiny, even less for dictating a rule for fanfiction writters.
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Post by Mickey on Oct 11, 2007 15:05:34 GMT -5
How about getting out into the real world? Sometimes even childhood sweetheart couples break up in the course of adulthood. Kim and Ron are only 18. Many people marry the person they think is their soulmate, only to get divorced later. It happens. Couples break up, no matter how strong they appear on the outside. Couples also stay together. I know. The only statement I made is that it's possible for them to break up. It might be less possible than them staying together, but it's still a possibility. This is true, but at the same time, most couples don't risk losing their lives on a constant basis. Kim and Ron may not let anything come between them, but death isn't something they have a choice about. That is very cool. Unfortunately, some couples do split after many years together. I am in no way arguing that Kim and Ron splitting is inevitable. All I am saying is that it is possible, even if not probable. |
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Post by ninjanaco on Oct 11, 2007 17:16:08 GMT -5
Well, while I do admit to a K/R breakup as a hypothetical possibility, I don't see it happening. It seems to me that Kim and Ron will be together 'till one of them dies.
As for canon, well, it depends. It's never good when an author is sloppy on facts about stuff that happened in the show, but if the author has a good reason for writing in the AU (MrDrP's "Trading Up" and KP/ST:TNG crossover are good examples, as is my "K/R Arranged Marriage" challenge - no way two Middle American families would be arranging the marriage of their children in this day and age.) Though, if the characters are OOC, then I'll definitely object.
And I really can't think of anything more to say right now...
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Post by Scoutcraft Piratess on Oct 11, 2007 18:59:09 GMT -5
(thank-you NewSkool and MrDrP for all your kind comments. They made my heart glow, which I need after a lousy day at school).
I truly hate the idea of Kim and Ron breaking up--simply because they are connected to each other that I don't think they could be completely separate even if they tried.
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Post by Slyrr on Oct 11, 2007 19:21:41 GMT -5
Wow - how did this thread balloon out to 17 pages....?
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Post by MrDrP on Oct 11, 2007 20:40:53 GMT -5
Wow - how did this thread balloon out to 17 pages....? Steroids. |
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Post by slicknickshady on Oct 11, 2007 22:32:44 GMT -5
Wow - how did this thread balloon out to 17 pages....? Steroids. ROTFL..................  |
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Post by mike on Oct 11, 2007 23:13:49 GMT -5
I just don't like pairing-heavy fics, period. Romance is NOT why I like KP, and I can't understand why people make such a big deal out of it. Easy, some people only watched it for the romance.... |
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Post by mike on Oct 11, 2007 23:16:09 GMT -5
WILL they stay together forever? That question is answered depending on how you define love... |
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Post by Alexlayer on Oct 11, 2007 23:32:33 GMT -5
WILL they stay together forever? That question is answered depending on how you define love... The thing is that, maybe because of that, the answer depends on each person. The dissagreement is no real surprise, actually. If you want my opinion, though, what I've seen in canon (meaning K/R) hardly resembles my vision of love. |
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Post by mike on Oct 12, 2007 4:11:32 GMT -5
And that Alex, is the only reason why most of us here are arguing about ships and shipping... because each of us has a different meaning of "love"  |
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Post by cpneb on Oct 12, 2007 7:33:56 GMT -5
And that Alex, is the only reason why most of us here are arguing about ships and shipping... because each of us has a different meaning of "love" Mike, you hit the nail on the head so hard that the nail went all the way through the board! Plus, many people just plain like to argue, and shipping gives them the opportunity to feed the debates and/or flames. [ EDIT: Thanks, Mike, for pointing this out.] Very profound, sir, and unfortunately the reason that, I fear, the shipping war can, at best, only resolve itself at times to an uneasy truce. As long as we can agree that we are going to disagree, we can move forward...I hope. Personally, I'm looking forward in my crystal ball for that flash of information about the Kim Possible movies that Disney will announce in 2009 (hey, it's my crystal ball, all right!). |
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Post by mike on Oct 12, 2007 7:43:58 GMT -5
Plus, many people just plain like to argue, and shipping gives them the opportunity to feed the flames. A debate is different from a flame war.... |
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Post by ~K♥R~ on Oct 12, 2007 9:38:18 GMT -5
Wow - how did this thread balloon out to 17 pages....? Steroids. Actually it was the cream. The topic didn't know it was taking the cream though while cheating.  (Reference to Barry Bonds >.>) It's nice to see people's thoughts on the ideas of shipping and such. I'm not a huge fan of a lot of shipping myself, but K/R are pretty fun to watch, that's for sure. They are fun to read about as well. Like it was mentioned before, Kim and Ron have gone through a lot together since Pre-K that led to their stronger bond, and many couples don't experience the sort of stuff they have. Who knows what will happen in the future, especially if their missions get more serious as time goes on. One can hope all will be okay though. In my mind, I don't think anything between them can ever cause them to want to split up. If anything, it'd be something to do with the missions that does it, if it were to happen. Just my opinion of course! |
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Post by eclogite on Oct 15, 2007 11:04:39 GMT -5
WILL they stay together forever? That question is answered depending on how you define love... Hormone mediated physiochemical response? Here's a submersible ship with cannon (HMS M-1)  |
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Post by eclogite on Oct 15, 2007 16:00:41 GMT -5
board=fanfic thread=1190426099 post=1191990014.... I feel I'm in the minority in that I read fics simply for the quality writing and plots, and watch the show for the humor and character interactions (and that means all of them, not just K/R). ... The writers did a good job of expanding the relationship without taking anything away from the show in season 4, but that didn't make it the reason I watched. Well, that's two pf us, anyway. More ships with cannon:  Something I've been wondering about, as well, there does seem to be an ovewr fixation with the whole relationship thing. |
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