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Post by DP on Sept 24, 2007 20:56:13 GMT -5
Not every person reacts the same to similar pressures True enough. Nothing like having older siblings tell you you're worthless for over a decade, then having Kim PROVE IT. Every. Frecking. Day ! The fact that Bonnie was so sociable and functional was a testament to her strength; lesser mortals have inflicted far greater harm for far lesser stress. And so, the writers sacrificed her character development for a cheesy exit : they turned a strong, competent young woman who could go toe to toe with THE Kim Possible into a blubbering, vapid, clingy, useless twit. Poor girl never stood a chance ! Imagine - a mere mortal like Bonnie going up against a demigod like Kim Possible ! The FACT she actually succeeded is quite impressive. But ultimately meaningless, for All Glory Must Go To Kim Possible. Why do some people have a pathological need to hate Bonnie ? Shego has tried to harm Kim many different ways over the years, but people like her. Up until that vomitous episode called 'Homecoming Upset', the WORST Bonnie had ever done to anyone was call them names. AND FOR THAT PEOPLE WISH HER DEAD ?!?!!? Some have whined that 'what Bonnie did was the worst harm EVER inflicted on Kim Possible !!!!11!1!!!' (snark) Yes - what she did was so horrible it took Kim all of TEN SECONDS to get completely over it. Oh, DA HUMANITY !!!!!!!(/snark) Kim must live a very sheltered life if THAT was the worst anyone has ever done to her ! If what Bonnie did to Kim is considered the equivalent of a War Crime, what does what Bonnie has had to endure from Connie and Lonnie rate as ? Oh, right - 'emotional abuse is easy to just get over !! (Unless it happens to Kim, in which case the perpetrator is a foul, inhuman beast not fit to live !!!) It can be very cold and dark living in someone's shadow - at least Kim may now get to know what that feels like now ! Spectacular post! *applauds* I always liked that they gave her some background in Bonding. I never saw it as an excuse for Bonnie's behavior, but rather a new way of looking at her character. Like I've said hundreds of times before, wouldn't it be worse if she treated people like she does for NO REASON?
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Post by AvinashTyagi on Sept 24, 2007 21:14:13 GMT -5
Not every person reacts the same to similar pressures True enough. Nothing like having older siblings tell you you're worthless for over a decade, then having Kim PROVE IT. Every. Frecking. Day ! The fact that Bonnie was so sociable and functional was a testament to her strength; lesser mortals have inflicted far greater harm for far lesser stress. And so, the writers sacrificed her character development for a cheesy exit : they turned a strong, competent young woman who could go toe to toe with THE Kim Possible into a blubbering, vapid, clingy, useless twit. Poor girl never stood a chance ! Imagine - a mere mortal like Bonnie going up against a demigod like Kim Possible ! The FACT she actually succeeded is quite impressive. But ultimately meaningless, for All Glory Must Go To Kim Possible. Why do some people have a pathological need to hate Bonnie ? Shego has tried to harm Kim many different ways over the years, but people like her. Up until that vomitous episode called 'Homecoming Upset', the WORST Bonnie had ever done to anyone was call them names. AND FOR THAT PEOPLE WISH HER DEAD ?!?!!? Some have whined that 'what Bonnie did was the worst harm EVER inflicted on Kim Possible !!!!11!1!!!' (snark) Yes - what she did was so horrible it took Kim all of TEN SECONDS to get completely over it. Oh, DA HUMANITY !!!!!!!(/snark) Kim must live a very sheltered life if THAT was the worst anyone has ever done to her ! If what Bonnie did to Kim is considered the equivalent of a War Crime, what does what Bonnie has had to endure from Connie and Lonnie rate as ? Oh, right - 'emotional abuse is easy to just get over !! (Unless it happens to Kim, in which case the perpetrator is a foul, inhuman beast not fit to live !!!) It can be very cold and dark living in someone's shadow - at least Kim may now get to know what that feels like now ! Well on this board you say anything bad about Kim and all the K/R shippers come out of the woodwork, so its no surprise that they hate Bonnie for attacking their beloved Kim
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Post by yvj on Sept 24, 2007 21:17:51 GMT -5
Well on this board you say anything bad about Kim and all the K/R shippers come out of the woodwork, so its no surprise that they hate Bonnie for attacking their beloved Kim This K/R fundamentalist has nothing but love for BonBon
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Post by AvinashTyagi on Sept 24, 2007 21:20:22 GMT -5
Well on this board you say anything bad about Kim and all the K/R shippers come out of the woodwork, so its no surprise that they hate Bonnie for attacking their beloved Kim This K/R fundamentalist has nothing but love for BonBon Well you tend to be one of the more calm K/R fans i've run into
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Post by yvj on Sept 24, 2007 21:25:58 GMT -5
This K/R fundamentalist has nothing but love for BonBon Well you tend to be one of the more calm K/R fans i've run into LOL That is hilarious considering my actions over the past couple of months. We are a very uh passionate community ;D
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Post by AvinashTyagi on Sept 24, 2007 21:28:22 GMT -5
Well you tend to be one of the more calm K/R fans i've run into LOL That is hilarious considering my actions over the past couple of months. We are a very uh passionate community ;D Well i've never had a problem with you, unlike some K/R fans who will remain nameless. Back on topic, i've always thought that Ron would have been a good influence on Bonnie if the two had ever gotten together, in fact one of the fanfic Ideas i'm working on has that happen
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Post by littlemissruthie on Sept 24, 2007 21:33:25 GMT -5
I put down, I'm not sure, I did feel bad for her when we saw the relationship with her sisters, but I don't think that was an excuse for her behavior!
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Post by antiyonder on Sept 24, 2007 22:06:47 GMT -5
To be honest I've gotten use to Bonnie, and find her to be one of the more enjoyable school rivals. I'd say the toning down of her negative traits in Season 4, plus the comparison between Brad Morton from American Dragon help me to appreciate the character more.
My comment was more directed towards people in general who excuse their behavior with their homelife.
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Post by AvinashTyagi on Sept 24, 2007 22:43:05 GMT -5
To be honest I've gotten use to Bonnie, and find her to be one of the more enjoyable school rivals. I'd say the toning down of her negative traits in Season 4, plus the comparison between Brad Morton from American Dragon help me to appreciate the character more. My comment was more directed towards people in general who excuse their behavior with their homelife. I don't think Bonnie has ever tried to explain herself by pointing to the way her sisters treat her, in fact if it wasn't for bonding Kim would have never learned about how Bonnie is abused by her sisters
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Post by Whisper from the Shadows on Sept 24, 2007 23:05:43 GMT -5
To be honest I've gotten use to Bonnie, and find her to be one of the more enjoyable school rivals. I'd say the toning down of her negative traits in Season 4, plus the comparison between Brad Morton from American Dragon help me to appreciate the character more. My comment was more directed towards people in general who excuse their behavior with their homelife. I don't think Bonnie has ever tried to explain herself by pointing to the way her sisters treat her, in fact if it wasn't for bonding Kim would have never learned about how Bonnie is abused by her sisters No, she wouldn't try to explain herself, that would be a sign of weakness. She has trained herself not to show weakness (she finally broke though in Homecoming). As for Kim knowing about her sisters... well, it really doesn't affect how Bonnie is going to act. However, it does make one wonder why Kim didn't make more of an effort to be-friend her after finding out about that.
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Post by slicknickshady on Sept 25, 2007 1:51:39 GMT -5
Well i've never had a problem with you, unlike some K/R fans who will remain nameless. Please. You think any of us care what you think? We can search your last 1,000 posts and you are just arguing in every single one of them.
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Post by AvinashTyagi on Sept 25, 2007 1:53:22 GMT -5
Well i've never had a problem with you, unlike some K/R fans who will remain nameless. Please. You think any of us care what you think? We can search your last 1,000 posts and you are just arguing in every single one of them. You sure seem to care what I think, you replied to my post
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Post by slicknickshady on Sept 25, 2007 1:54:14 GMT -5
You sure seem to care what I think, you replied to my post Oh that really hurt.
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Post by AvinashTyagi on Sept 25, 2007 1:55:13 GMT -5
You sure seem to care what I think, you replied to my post Oh that really hurt. Not trying to cause any hurt just showing a fact, if you didn't care you'd ignore, but you did respond, which proves you do care
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Post by slicknickshady on Sept 25, 2007 2:00:17 GMT -5
Why do some people have a pathological need to hate Bonnie ? Up until that vomitous episode called 'Homecoming Upset', the WORST Bonnie had ever done to anyone was call them names. AND FOR THAT PEOPLE WISH HER DEAD ?!?!!? Some have whined that 'what Bonnie did was the worst harm EVER inflicted on Kim Possible !!!!11!1!!!' If what Bonnie did to Kim is considered the equivalent of a War Crime, what does what Bonnie has had to endure from Connie and Lonnie rate as ? It can be very cold and dark living in someone's shadow - at least Kim may now get to know what that feels like now ! It's our right to hate her. It's not like we have no reason to hate her. Seriously kissing another persons partner is not a laughing matter. In horrible. I don't blame bonnies sisters for treating her the way they do. Not too mention all the other crap she's dones. Bonnie is not in anybodys shadow. I Dedicate The Eminem, DMX, and Obie Trice song "Go To Sleep" to Bonnie.
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Post by AvinashTyagi on Sept 25, 2007 2:33:04 GMT -5
Why do some people have a pathological need to hate Bonnie ? Up until that vomitous episode called 'Homecoming Upset', the WORST Bonnie had ever done to anyone was call them names. AND FOR THAT PEOPLE WISH HER DEAD ?!?!!? Some have whined that 'what Bonnie did was the worst harm EVER inflicted on Kim Possible !!!!11!1!!!' If what Bonnie did to Kim is considered the equivalent of a War Crime, what does what Bonnie has had to endure from Connie and Lonnie rate as ? It can be very cold and dark living in someone's shadow - at least Kim may now get to know what that feels like now ! It's our right to hate her. It's not like we have no reason to hate her. Seriously kissing another persons partner is not a laughing matter. In horrible. I don't blame bonnies sisters for treating her the way they do. Not too mention all the other crap she's dones. Bonnie is not in anybodys shadow. I Dedicate The Eminem, DMX, and Obie Trice song "Go To Sleep" to Bonnie. wow and you accuse me of hating Kim, my dislike of Kim isn't even in the same galaxy as your feelings for Bonnie
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Post by slicknickshady on Sept 25, 2007 3:01:35 GMT -5
Bonnie deserves the hate. She has been a horrible person since season one. I don't make stuff up about Bonnie. I don't spin.
You make up stuff about kim (You and Your No kiss in Mentor of Dicontent Theory. LOL).
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Post by AvinashTyagi on Sept 25, 2007 3:11:02 GMT -5
Bonnie deserves the hate. She has been a horrible person since season one. I don't make stuff up about Bonnie. I don't spin. You make up stuff about kim (You and Your No kiss in Mentor of Dicontent Theory. LOL). I don't make stuff up about Kim, as I said you and all the other K/R shippers have yet to show me any proof of a supposed kiss, I asked for some and none of you delivered, you all said you would show me proof and yet you failed, apparantly i'm not the one making stuff up (like trying to tell me Kim said she loved Ron, now that is a total made up, when what she actually said was "I think I loves you", which is ambiguous and even Loter wouldn't support you guys, saying he wouldn't answer it and left it ambiguous) And I don't make up any of the horrible and crummy things Kim has done nor do I spin, I show the facts of Kim, you're just too K/R blind to accept it.
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Post by eclogite on Sept 25, 2007 6:56:00 GMT -5
... As for Kim knowing about her sisters... well, it really doesn't affect how Bonnie is going to act. However, it does make one wonder why Kim didn't make more of an effort to be-friend her after finding out about that. Good point, well written heroes have flaws and make mistakes, so I guess this another of Kim's. It would have been intersting to explore Kim and Bonnie becoming friends, though this would have to wait until they've escaped the high school environment.
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Post by NewSkool101 on Sept 25, 2007 7:45:20 GMT -5
Bonnie deserves the hate. She has been a horrible person since season one. I don't make stuff up about Bonnie. I don't spin. You make up stuff about kim (You and Your No kiss in Mentor of Dicontent Theory. LOL). As a fan of professional wrestling, I've learned that people are going to like who they want to like and hate who they want to hate, no matter who they're 'supposed' to like/hate. You can debate whether John Cena is the savior of wrestling or if he's a silly white-boy poser who sucks, but it isn't going to change anybody's opinion of him. Slick, you don't need to justify your hate for Bonnie anymore than Avi needs to justify his hate for Kim, because at the end of the day, what difference will it make WHY you hate them if you'll still hate them?
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