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Post by Alexlayer on Sept 27, 2007 11:53:52 GMT -5
So like I said we haven't confirmed anything from the I think I love you" scene Gosh! This is never-ending! XD
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Post by Nulla on Sept 27, 2007 11:56:51 GMT -5
ROTFL @ this thread! i agree with yvj, build a bridge and get over the topic can an admin plz lock this thread! cheers
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Post by NewSkool101 on Sept 27, 2007 16:01:00 GMT -5
What was the original topic of this thread anyway? The title doesn't give away much.
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Post by mike on Sept 28, 2007 5:46:20 GMT -5
Let's go back a little in the events that has happened in Clean Slate. Kim lost her memory and Ron kept complaining on why she hasn't remembered him that he is her boyfriend. Ron took every chance he got to point it out that they were dating. Now lets go forward to the train scene. Kim: Ron, I remember that you're my boyfriend and that I think that I love you. Ron: For Real? Kim: For Real. (hugs) Ron: Now this is a memory. Ron's response: "Now this is a memory" clearly shows that he was talking about the things that has happened between the two of them as people who are dating because Kim has already affirmed that she remembers him during the time Ron gave her flowers. going back to the scene: Ron: So you know who I am? Kim: Of course I do, you are my bestfriend. We do everything together. This scene shows that Kim has remembered Ron as her bestfriend but not as her boyfriend. Ron's mention of "Now this is a memory" shows that he was pertaining to the period when he and Kim are boyfriend and girlfriend, because that was the only memory left unsolved. Now back to the "For Real" situation. The "For Real?" question asked by Ron is related in a way to the earlier to the statement Kim said earlier and Kim's response was to affirm that question. However, that is not the point. The "For Real" there was placed as a sign on how serious the first statement really is unless the tone of voice used on that "For Real?" is playful (going back to the fallacy of intonation) and/or Kim's answer itself. Hence, the use of the "For Real" in that situation is to state how serious the primary statement really was because without the "For Real": Kim: Ron, I remember that you're my boyfriend and that I think that I love (hug, but no response after) makes the statement less serious but with the "For Real", the statement is taken more seriously and only by the seriousness of the statement can we really derive the meaning definition denoted by the word "think". Actually when Kim said she remebered him as her best friend she also got his name wrong, plus she didn't remember a lot of memories from before they were dating, which means she didn't really remember him, she was just saying she did, so in fact she was lying to him. So like I said we haven't confirmed anything from the I think I love you" scene Very true, however in the train scene it was already clear that Kim's only missing memory is about their romantic relationship. (in the train scene before the big "I love you") Kim: Don't bet on it Drakken. Drakken: Kim Possible! but you've lost your memory. Kim: Wade filled in the last piece when he alerted me you jumping this train. Ron: Well, not the Very last piece! Kim: Ron, not now with the dating! Yes, but don't take it too hard ;D We all are Maybe the both of you.... but I know I'm not ;D
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Post by NewSkool101 on Sept 28, 2007 6:05:41 GMT -5
Yes, but don't take it too hard ;D We all are Maybe the both of you.... but I know I'm not ;D Everyone's at least a little crazy. If we weren't we wouldn't be here, discussing a children's cartoon show as if it were vital to the continuation of our lives. TBH, I have yet to find the picture of total mental stability.
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Post by mike on Sept 28, 2007 6:13:24 GMT -5
tsk...tsk.... it doesn't follow that if you're crazy you're supposed to be here and vice versa
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Post by NewSkool101 on Sept 28, 2007 6:20:25 GMT -5
Sane people don't debate TV shows (particularly ones aimed at young children) to the death. Also, in amendment to my previous post: Roger Federer = The Picture of Mental Stability ;D
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Post by mike on Sept 28, 2007 6:31:10 GMT -5
Sane people don't debate TV shows (particularly ones aimed at young children) to the death. Is that true for every single person in the world or is it just true on most people on the world... definition of crazy (wordnet.princeton.edu): brainsick: affected with madness or insanity; "a man who had gone mad" foolish; totally unsound; "a crazy scheme"; "half-baked ideas"; "a screwball proposal without a prayer of working" marked by foolish or unreasoning fondness; "she was crazy about him"; "gaga over the rock group's new album"; "he was infatuated with her" possessed by inordinate excitement; "the crowd went crazy"; "was crazy to try his new bicycle" intensely enthusiastic about or preoccupied with; "crazy about cars and racing" someone deranged and possibly dangerous I'm not brainsick. I'm not foolish. I'm not possessed by inordinate excitement. I'm not intensely enthusiatic. and I'm not deranged and possibly dangerous.
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Post by NewSkool101 on Sept 28, 2007 6:41:35 GMT -5
intensely enthusiastic about or preoccupied with; I'm not intensely enthusiatic. Riiiiiiiiiiiiight... Embrace your insanity, man! The sooner you do, the happier you'll be.
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Post by mike on Sept 28, 2007 6:47:52 GMT -5
intensely enthusiastic about or preoccupied with; I'm not intensely enthusiatic. Riiiiiiiiiiiiight... Embrace your insanity, man! The sooner you do, the happier you'll be. I would, if I have insanity to embrace... I admit I'm enthusiastic but not intensely enthusiastic...
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Post by mike on Sept 28, 2007 6:49:11 GMT -5
ROTFL @ this thread! i agree with yvj, build a bridge and get over the topic can an admin plz lock this thread! cheers just wondering why should this thread be locked
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Post by Commander Argus on Sept 28, 2007 6:50:40 GMT -5
Nah, no need to lock it, we haven't even started calling each other the good names yet.
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Post by mike on Sept 28, 2007 6:53:50 GMT -5
agreed *salutes* to commander ;D
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Post by AvinashTyagi on Sept 28, 2007 7:57:11 GMT -5
Actually when Kim said she remebered him as her best friend she also got his name wrong, plus she didn't remember a lot of memories from before they were dating, which means she didn't really remember him, she was just saying she did, so in fact she was lying to him. So like I said we haven't confirmed anything from the I think I love you" scene Very true, however in the train scene it was already clear that Kim's only missing memory is about their romantic relationship. (in the train scene before the big "I love you") Kim: Don't bet on it Drakken. Drakken: Kim Possible! but you've lost your memory. Kim: Wade filled in the last piece when he alerted me you jumping this train. Ron: Well, not the Very last piece! Kim: Ron, not now with the dating! Yes, but don't take it too hard ;D We all are Maybe the both of you.... but I know I'm not ;D Oh, you're the craziest No she didn't remeber it all, if you recall she didn't remeber all the times he dropped his pants, even before they were dating, so who knows what else she was missing, she didn't really remember Ron
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Post by Commander Argus on Sept 28, 2007 8:50:18 GMT -5
The alternative to Ron not being worth remembering is that, for some odd psychological reason, she didn't remember the MOST important thing of all until last.
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Post by The_Shadow on Sept 28, 2007 11:32:16 GMT -5
The alternative to Ron not being worth remembering is that, for some odd psychological reason, she didn't remember the MOST important thing of all until last. when a girl says I love you she means it, us guys don't say that stuff. No matter if she said I think I love you. take in acount that it took the most goofiest acts in ron's past to trigger her memory of him. Usually its the quirks about someone whether we like them or not causes to fall for a person. The word "think" was a correlation of the moment its obvious she's thought about this before her memory had returned given that fact that she bought a gift to celebrate 6 monthes I've been with women longer than that and haven't bought them SQUAT. Kim meant what said becasue she is willing to help with one of his many quirks. Ron hates loosing his pants and she sees that and out love she creates a gift that bend a steel steam PIPE. no matter how ya'll analyze this THE GIRL LOVES HIS GOOFY BUTT
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Post by AvinashTyagi on Sept 28, 2007 16:25:59 GMT -5
The alternative to Ron not being worth remembering is that, for some odd psychological reason, she didn't remember the MOST important thing of all until last. when a girl says I love you she means it, us guys don't say that stuff. No matter if she said I think I love you. take in acount that it took the most goofiest acts in ron's past to trigger her memory of him. Usually its the quirks about someone whether we like them or not causes to fall for a person. The word "think" was a correlation of the moment its obvious she's thought about this before her memory had returned given that fact that she bought a gift to celebrate 6 monthes I've been with women longer than that and haven't bought them SQUAT. Kim meant what said becasue she is willing to help with one of his many quirks. Ron hates loosing his pants and she sees that and out love she creates a gift that bend a steel steam PIPE. no matter how ya'll analyze this THE GIRL LOVES HIS GOOFY BUTT You don't think girls can be manipulative, or confused or any of the vast number of emotions and personalities out there? If she really meant it without any uncertainty she would have said it without the I think.
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Post by mike on Sept 28, 2007 19:21:40 GMT -5
Very true, however in the train scene it was already clear that Kim's only missing memory is about their romantic relationship. (in the train scene before the big "I love you") Kim: Don't bet on it Drakken. Drakken: Kim Possible! but you've lost your memory. Kim: Wade filled in the last piece when he alerted me you jumping this train. Ron: Well, not the Very last piece! Kim: Ron, not now with the dating! Maybe the both of you.... but I know I'm not ;D Oh, you're the craziest No she didn't remember it all, if you recall she didn't remember all the times he dropped his pants, even before they were dating, so who knows what else she was missing, she didn't really remember Ron Exactly, Ron was the only missing piece in her memory at that time! therefore they are indeed talking about Ron and everything about him including her relationship with him. When she said the "I think that I love", she said it very serious and Ron affirmed that with the question"For Real?", hence, in the rules of logic the true meaning of the word is derived based on how serious the tone is.
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Post by AvinashTyagi on Sept 28, 2007 19:49:10 GMT -5
Oh, you're the craziest No she didn't remember it all, if you recall she didn't remember all the times he dropped his pants, even before they were dating, so who knows what else she was missing, she didn't really remember Ron Exactly, Ron was the only missing piece in her memory at that time! therefore they are indeed talking about Ron and everything about him including her relationship with him. When she said the "I think that I love", she said it very serious and Ron affirmed that with the question"For Real?", hence, in the rules of logic the true meaning of the word is derived based on how serious the tone is. But then she could have interpreted the for real as him asking about the remebering part, because he had spent the entire episode trying to get her to remember him, hence the ambiguity
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Post by Commander Argus on Sept 28, 2007 20:27:45 GMT -5
The "I think" was a hesitation on her part because she was moving to the next level of the relationship where she acknowledges she truly romantically loves him.
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