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Post by AvinashTyagi on Sept 28, 2007 21:09:33 GMT -5
The "I think" was a hesitation on her part because she was moving to the next level of the relationship where she acknowledges she truly romantically loves him. Except she never actually acknowledges it, she only says that she thinks she loves him, which means she doesn't know, and might not
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Post by The_Shadow on Sept 28, 2007 21:21:42 GMT -5
when a girl says I love you she means it, us guys don't say that stuff. No matter if she said I think I love you. take in acount that it took the most goofiest acts in ron's past to trigger her memory of him. Usually its the quirks about someone whether we like them or not causes to fall for a person. The word "think" was a correlation of the moment its obvious she's thought about this before her memory had returned given that fact that she bought a gift to celebrate 6 monthes I've been with women longer than that and haven't bought them SQUAT. Kim meant what said becasue she is willing to help with one of his many quirks. Ron hates loosing his pants and she sees that and out love she creates a gift that bend a steel steam PIPE. no matter how ya'll analyze this THE GIRL LOVES HIS GOOFY BUTT You don't think girls can be manipulative, or confused or any of the vast number of emotions and personalities out there? If she really meant it without any uncertainty she would have said it without the I think. oh yeah, you're right but... not this particular girl
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Post by AvinashTyagi on Sept 28, 2007 21:49:37 GMT -5
You don't think girls can be manipulative, or confused or any of the vast number of emotions and personalities out there? If she really meant it without any uncertainty she would have said it without the I think. oh yeah, you're right but... not this particular girl Oh I think Kim has shown that she is quite capable of those emotions and personalities
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Post by eddybob15 on Sept 28, 2007 22:06:41 GMT -5
oh yeah, you're right but... not this particular girl Oh I think Kim has shown that she is quite capable of those emotions and personalities But she would not manipulate Ron.
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Post by Alexlayer on Sept 28, 2007 22:19:13 GMT -5
Well, she can be kinda bosy
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Post by The_Shadow on Sept 28, 2007 23:04:48 GMT -5
she can be take out the trash and you'll get some manipulative, but just crushing or hurting Ron I don't think so
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Post by mike on Sept 29, 2007 6:19:06 GMT -5
Exactly, Ron was the only missing piece in her memory at that time! therefore they are indeed talking about Ron and everything about him including her relationship with him. When she said the "I think that I love", she said it very serious and Ron affirmed that with the question"For Real?", hence, in the rules of logic the true meaning of the word is derived based on how serious the tone is. But then she could have interpreted the for real as him asking about the remebering part, because he had spent the entire episode trying to get her to remember him, hence the ambiguity No it doesn't cause the ambiguity, regardless whether interpretations are taken because if we take what you are saying: "If Kim interpreted the for real as him asking about the remembering part" Clearly shows that the only remaining forgotten memory is about Ron and everything about him including their relationship.Now the only difference, if we take what I'm saying,is that it'll be more obvious. And as the seriousness of the scene becomes very high, the true meaning of the word "think" is revealed.
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Post by shallow15 on Sept 29, 2007 6:33:20 GMT -5
But then she could have interpreted the for real as him asking about the remebering part, because he had spent the entire episode trying to get her to remember him, hence the ambiguity No it doesn't cause the ambiguity, regardless whether interpretations are taken because if we take what you are saying: "If Kim interpreted the for real as him asking about the remembering part" Clearly shows that the only remaining forgotten memory is about Ron and everything about him including their relationship.Now the only difference, if we take what I'm saying,is that it'll be more obvious. And as the seriousness of the scene becomes very high, the true meaning of the word "think" is revealed. Or, alternatively, the entire line could be meant as a gag on the part of the writers, i.e. the old Partridge Family song "I Think I Love You." They are known for throwing in lines that are meant to be inside gags. And don't give me any nonsense about how they wouldn't do that with a situation like this. The entire episode is one long exercise in silliness. It's got Kim confusing a bouquet of flowers for a SALAD for crying out loud. --Erin M.
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Post by Commander Argus on Sept 29, 2007 7:13:05 GMT -5
Yeah, that bloody Patridge fam song plays in my head every time I'm in this thread.
Holding onto the hope that Kim doesn't love him because she said "I think" is so thin it's almost non-existant.
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Post by yvj on Sept 29, 2007 10:20:15 GMT -5
Since it was requested www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXS2hQybYFQI'm sleeping And right in the middle of a good dream like all at once I wake up From something that keeps knocking at my brain Before I go insane I hold my pillow to my head And spring up in my bed Screaming out the words I dread: "I think I love you!" (I think I love you) This morning, I woke up with this feeling I didn't know how to deal with And so I just decided to myself I'd hide it to myself And never talk about it And didn't I go and shout it When you walked into my room. "I think I love you!" (I think I love you) I think I love you So what am I so afraid of? I'm afraid that I'm not sure of A love there is no cure for I think I love you Isn't that what life is made of? Though it worries me to say I've never felt this way Believe me You really don't have to worry I only want to make you happy And if you say, hey, go away, I will But I think better still I ought to stay around and love you Do you think I have a case? Let me ask you to your face: Do you think you love me? I think I love you!
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Post by AvinashTyagi on Sept 29, 2007 11:50:06 GMT -5
Oh I think Kim has shown that she is quite capable of those emotions and personalities But she would not manipulate Ron. Puppy Dog Pout, enough said And if we take what Ron was concerned about the entire episode, namely her remebering him, then we can see that it was serious, but that it was serious about the rmebering part as well, so we are still left with the uncertainty
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Post by eddybob15 on Sept 29, 2007 11:53:04 GMT -5
But she would not manipulate Ron. Puppy Dog Pout, enough said I mean she wouldn't manipulate him emotionally.
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Post by AvinashTyagi on Sept 29, 2007 12:42:21 GMT -5
Puppy Dog Pout, enough said I mean she wouldn't manipulate him emotionally. Kim: "It'll be more fun if we both work here" *adds puppy dog pout to emotional manipulation so she doesn't have to work there alone*
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Post by eddybob15 on Sept 29, 2007 12:52:32 GMT -5
I mean she wouldn't manipulate him emotionally. Kim: "It'll be more fun if we both work here" *adds puppy dog pout to emotional manipulation so she doesn't have to work there alone* Well, she must've really liked Ron to want to work with him.
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Post by The_Shadow on Sept 29, 2007 21:20:03 GMT -5
Kim: "It'll be more fun if we both work here" *adds puppy dog pout to emotional manipulation so she doesn't have to work there alone* Well, she must've really liked Ron to want to work with him. that kinda manipulation is carried on to every woman in this world
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Post by AvinashTyagi on Sept 29, 2007 23:15:39 GMT -5
Well it shows that she can be manipulative, even emotionally, when she wants to be
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Post by mike on Sept 30, 2007 2:08:47 GMT -5
And if we take what Ron was concerned about the entire episode, namely her remembering him, then we can see that it was serious, but that it was serious about the remembering part as well, so we are still left with the uncertainty You're getting close Now let's look a little closer, You've said that "It was serious about the remembering part as well", therefore, it still affirms that their relationship whether it was just the relationship or Ron's entire existence was the only missing piece. And since that was the only missing piece, therefore Ron was pertaining to either her remembrance of him(including their relationship) or just their relationship. Ron is now pertaining to their relationship as it was related to Kim's first message "I think I love you", now since Ron wants to affirm it and Kim gave an affirming answer clearly shows that the scene itself is very very serious and since it was proven to be serious the real meaning of the word "think" is therefore shown.
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Post by mike on Sept 30, 2007 2:18:23 GMT -5
Kim: "It'll be more fun if we both work here" *adds puppy dog pout to emotional manipulation so she doesn't have to work there alone* Well, she must've really liked Ron to want to work with him. It's actually No big, Ron has also manipulated Kim back... and It's kinda nice when they both manipulate each other ;D
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Post by AvinashTyagi on Sept 30, 2007 12:21:56 GMT -5
And if we take what Ron was concerned about the entire episode, namely her remembering him, then we can see that it was serious, but that it was serious about the remembering part as well, so we are still left with the uncertainty You're getting close Now let's look a little closer, You've said that "It was serious about the remembering part as well", therefore, it still affirms that their relationship whether it was just the relationship or Ron's entire existence was the only missing piece. And since that was the only missing piece, therefore Ron was pertaining to either her remembrance of him(including their relationship) or just their relationship. Ron is now pertaining to their relationship as it was related to Kim's first message "I think I love you", now since Ron wants to affirm it and Kim gave an affirming answer clearly shows that the scene itself is very very serious and since it was proven to be serious the real meaning of the word "think" is therefore shown. Now you're making assumptions, you only think that was what Ron was saying and you only think that was what Kim was saying, but can you prove it? Fact is you don't know, and from Kim's memories, she didn't remember him even before they were a couple so you assume that she was referring to the love part when she could be referring to either, especially since their comments were as ambiguous as her statment, Ron was trying to get her to remeber him throughout the episode, mostly about them dating, but from her comments she didn't even remember him all that much from before they were dating, as evident from the memories from before they were dating, so he was really trying to get her to remember him in general as well, also you assume that Kim would take his comments as being serious about the love part considering, getting her to remember him had been what he was serious about all episode, not whether she loved him, as a result even if for the sake of argument he was asking about the love part, she could have viewed that he was more concerend about the rembering part, since that is what he ahd been concerned about it for most of the episode, and that's assuming that he was referring to the love part and not the remembering part. Hence the ambiguity remains, since we don't know what they were referring to.
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Post by shallow15 on Sept 30, 2007 20:03:17 GMT -5
Guess what? You're both making assumption and you've both provided good arguments that show that either interpretation could be valid...and ultimately you keep coming back to square one.
It's a draw. Let it go.
And Avash, how about noting the bit in Dracko's earlier post that you DON'T have to have the last wordon ever single issue? He wasn't just talking about the kiss issue. You aren't making any friends here, and if you expect everyone to suddenly bow down and acknowledge you as the Ultimate And Final Authority On All Motivations of Characters In a Children's Cartoon Series, you ain't gettin' it.
Yeah, I'm attacking you. Deal with it. You come off as a pompous egotistical snob and your little comments about "trying to be humble but Lord knows it's hard" and "Inspiring others to greatness" aren't funny, but just seem to reinforce that you are an egotistical snob.
So, if you're so convinced you are always right, why not just shut up and let us heathens go about our delusions in peace?
--Erin M.
Note to the Mods: I fully accept any disciplinary actions that this post may warrant. I simply could not stand by and let this snob spew on and on and on anymore without saying something.
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